dave mcbride Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Rex has been a disaster since he got here. Fans calling for his head last year were bombarded by the apologists all offseason as they blamed Mario and others for his **** defense. My eyes didn't lie. Rexs coaching and defense are putrid. Good riddance. Mario was horrible last year too. Both things can be true. He hasn't done anything in Miami this season either.
Buftex Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Mario was horrible last year too. Both things can be true. He hasn't done anything in Miami this season either. I think Mario has been a healthy scratch a few times this year in Miami...have to admit, I blamed a lot of his fall-off on Rex last year...but maybe he really is just done...
RyanC883 Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 looking at stats from E.J. last year when we were behind both games againts Bengals and Jacksonville . When behind 99.9 qb rating 69.2% com pct. 8.1 yards per att. This year when Taylor was behind 86.1 qb rating. 61.6 com. pct. 7.5 yds per att. When behind by 9-16 pts Taylor 63.7 com. pct . 7.4 yds att. And E.J. 66.7 com pct. 7.3 yds att. One guy has 16 starts and the other has 26 starts. 16 starts for a qb is not a lot of starts. He still can get better. 26 starts you have a better idea of what you have. Everybody talks about E.J. games againts Giants and Jacksonville. Both games were close. Yes he played bad againts Jacksonville in the beginning . But didn't let it get him down, he kept slinging it, Wasn't scared to throw the ball like I see Taylor looked. 16 starts compare to 26 starts one had most of his starts in first two years in the NFL and the other 5 years sitting and learning in the NFL. Both raw coming out of college. I would think a QB sitting for 5 years before he gets to start would be better than somebody just coming out of college. Both being raw that is. good stats. EJ is def more of a gamer than TT. And like you said, TT has much more NFL experience, not only in games but years and has played for competent coaches in Balt. I'm fine with EJ or Jones last 3 games.
dave mcbride Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 I think Mario has been a healthy scratch a few times this year in Miami...have to admit, I blamed a lot of his fall-off on Rex last year...but maybe he really is just done... He had clearly a) lost a step and b) stopped caring.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 I give him credit for the effort, but it got to the point of unbelievable stubbornness to admit he's wrong. You mean like the CoT zealots?
dave mcbride Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) looking at stats from E.J. last year when we were behind both games againts Bengals and Jacksonville . When behind 99.9 qb rating 69.2% com pct. 8.1 yards per att. This year when Taylor was behind 86.1 qb rating. 61.6 com. pct. 7.5 yds per att. When behind by 9-16 pts Taylor 63.7 com. pct . 7.4 yds att. And E.J. 66.7 com pct. 7.3 yds att. One guy has 16 starts and the other has 26 starts. 16 starts for a qb is not a lot of starts. He still can get better. 26 starts you have a better idea of what you have. Everybody talks about E.J. games againts Giants and Jacksonville. Both games were close. Yes he played bad againts Jacksonville in the beginning . But didn't let it get him down, he kept slinging it, Wasn't scared to throw the ball like I see Taylor looked. 16 starts compare to 26 starts one had most of his starts in first two years in the NFL and the other 5 years sitting and learning in the NFL. Both raw coming out of college. I would think a QB sitting for 5 years before he gets to start would be better than somebody just coming out of college. Both being raw that is. Let's not forget that on one of the Bills TD drives against Jax early in the second half, Manuel threw a terrible pass that should have been an easy, easy pick in the end zone. But the Jax defender dropped it. He really isn't any good. Everyone appears to know this except for a few Bills fan diehards. Edited December 12, 2016 by dave mcbride
Santana Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Let's not forget that on one of the Bills TD drives against Jax early in the second half, Manuel threw a terrible pass that should have been an easy, easy pick in the end zone. But the Jax defender dropped it. He really isn't any good. Everyone appears to know this except for a few Bills fan diehards. Yeah I'm not sure why we need to see more EJ, we've seen 3 years of him and he's proven time and time again that he's not a starter.
TheFunPolice Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Just listened to John Murphy act like it was the first he heard of the story on WGR when a caller brought it up. I wonder if he feels any guilt
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Just listened to John Murphy act like it was the first he heard of the story on WGR when a caller brought it up. I wonder if he feels any guilt No, he's a shameless company shill
fridge Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Just listened to John Murphy act like it was the first he heard of the story on WGR when a caller brought it up. I wonder if he feels any guilt HA HA HA! Now that is funny. I've heard John Murphy say some absolutely crazy stuff on the radio. He's obviously a shill, but it's unreal how bad he is at masking that. There's an art to having conversations about firing everybody when you're supposed to toe the company line, and let me tell you, Murphy is no Picasso.
Fadingpain Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 FWIW I have a family member who gets lots of free tickets from a contact in the organization...nice fancy box seats...not anyone high up mind you...the person has a title that would make you say...that job really exists? Word is that Rex is gone today. Not pretending to be that !@#$, or the next "never give up"...but it was interesting enough to pass on...will be interesting to see if it happens...I don't recall if there was a time frame given of 100 PM like some reports... It is like "I know guy who cleans the carpets for a girl who does Rex wife toes who says the end is coming"...but though it had enough possible credibility to pass on...take it with a grain of salt. Thanks for the info. MOFO ! Now is the time for all Bills fans to come together and be united in hope. We seem to be on the brink of sweeping changes at OBD. The only 2 questions are when, and to what extent?
boyst Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Just listened to John Murphy act like it was the first he heard of the story on WGR when a caller brought it up. I wonder if he feels any guilt I heard that too. I don't buy it. I believe he is busy enough pregame and post game to not have looked personally. But to not have had it mentioned it passing etc by someone else... or have it sent to his twat than yeah. Bullocks.
bobobonators Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 The Buffalo News reports Bills owner Terry Pegula is opposed to the idea of firing Rex Ryan in-season. The report suggests Ryan will keep his job for the final three weeks, but his status following the season is considerably murkier. Ryan could certainly point to injuries, especially on offense, as a reason for his team arguably underperforming, but the Bills have once again been a mistake-filled and inconsistent squad this year. He will likely be shown the door on Black Monday.
Alphadawg7 Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 I am just going to say this... I dont necessarily believe Rex is the problem and gets more of the blame than warranted. Granted, that comes with the job as a HC, but he isn't the guy out there seeing the field for Taylor when he doesnt see wide open options. He isn't the guy trying to rehab Sammy so he can stay on the field. He isn't the reason our top 2 draft picks got hurt before the season. He isn't the guy who caused Dareus to do what Dareus has always done by hurting himself. He isn't the guy that hurt AW. He isn't the guy who hurt many of our OL. He isn't the guy that makes Robert Woods always fall down. He isn't the guy who keeps getting all of our WR's hurt. I mean there is a lot of things that went wrong for this team, but honestly, it wasn't much different than the things that always seem to go wrong with this team. He still managed a .500 record last year and can still finish with a .500 or winning record this year as we almost certainly beat Cle next week to get back to .500 with 2 games to play. I think a lot of the negativity around Rex has carried over from his time with the Jets, and he gets more criticism than earned because of it. Has he been a perfect coach, no, but no coach is perfect. Players love playing for him, and this team has mostly been competitive in almost all of its losses. It never seems to give up, even against Pittsburgh as awful of a game as it was, this team found a way to actually have a chance at winning if not for Carp's screw ups. Taylor was a young learning QB last year, and this year he didn't take the next step. How can people sit back and say Taylor is terrible then be mad at Rex for not having us in the playoffs? The bottom line is simple, Taylor is and has been the best QB on the roster in Rex's 2 years. EJ started 2 games and lost both, TT has a .500 record as the starter. Rex can only coach whats on the roster, and it doesn't make it easier when your firepower is on the sidelines with injuries. But he still has this team competitive. If they are going to fire him, to me it has no value until the end of the season unless the FO and him are at impasse in regards to which QB to play. I do think there is the potential he gets fired, I just don't necessarily think it solves our problems. If we do fire him, I still think the best replacements should be proven winners who command respect and discipline like Coughlin, even Cowher. People say the game has passed Cowher by, but I dont buy it as he is still very much involved in the game every week and isn't clueless to the type of game the league is playing today.
Fadingpain Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) If this latest TBN report is accurate, and Pegula opposes in-season firing...what was the kernel of truth behind all this talk that he is gone as of today? Power play by Whaley to get Rex out, change QBs, and try to save his own skin? That would be my guess. Edited December 12, 2016 by Fadingpain
BringBackOrton Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) I am just going to say this... I dont necessarily believe Rex is the problem and gets more of the blame than warranted. Granted, that comes with the job as a HC, but he isn't the guy out there seeing the field for Taylor when he doesnt see wide open options. He isn't the guy trying to rehab Sammy so he can stay on the field. He isn't the reason our top 2 draft picks got hurt before the season. He isn't the guy who caused Dareus to do what Dareus has always done by hurting himself. He isn't the guy that hurt AW. He isn't the guy who hurt many of our OL. He isn't the guy that makes Robert Woods always fall down. He isn't the guy who keeps getting all of our WR's hurt. I mean there is a lot of things that went wrong for this team, but honestly, it wasn't much different than the things that always seem to go wrong with this team. He still managed a .500 record last year and can still finish with a .500 or winning record this year as we almost certainly beat Cle next week to get back to .500 with 2 games to play. I think a lot of the negativity around Rex has carried over from his time with the Jets, and he gets more criticism than earned because of it. Has he been a perfect coach, no, but no coach is perfect. Players love playing for him, and this team has mostly been competitive in almost all of its losses. It never seems to give up, even against Pittsburgh as awful of a game as it was, this team found a way to actually have a chance at winning if not for Carp's screw ups. Taylor was a young learning QB last year, and this year he didn't take the next step. How can people sit back and say Taylor is terrible then be mad at Rex for not having us in the playoffs? The bottom line is simple, Taylor is and has been the best QB on the roster in Rex's 2 years. EJ started 2 games and lost both, TT has a .500 record as the starter. Rex can only coach whats on the roster, and it doesn't make it easier when your firepower is on the sidelines with injuries. But he still has this team competitive. If they are going to fire him, to me it has no value until the end of the season unless the FO and him are at impasse in regards to which QB to play. I do think there is the potential he gets fired, I just don't necessarily think it solves our problems. If we do fire him, I still think the best replacements should be proven winners who command respect and discipline like Coughlin, even Cowher. People say the game has passed Cowher by, but I dont buy it as he is still very much involved in the game every week and isn't clueless to the type of game the league is playing today. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yes this team had a ton of heart walking after Leveon Bell. Edited December 12, 2016 by jmc12290
Alphadawg7 Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 If this latest TBN report is accurate, and Pegula opposes in-season firing...what was the kernel of truth behind all this talk that he is gone as of today? Power play by Whaley to get Rex out, change QBs, and try to save his own skin? That would be my guess. Or could be some dumb secretary that thought she over heard something and leaked it to some reporter for cash regardless of its merits. Most of these "reports" with "sources" and nothing more than headline grabbing garbage with very few strains of truth in them. Much like when a movie says "Its based on a true story" when to be able to put that you really need very little of the movie to resemble the truth.
fridge Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Or could be some dumb secretary that thought she over heard something and leaked it to some reporter for cash regardless of its merits. Most of these "reports" with "sources" and nothing more than headline grabbing garbage with very few strains of truth in them. Much like when a movie says "Its based on a true story" when to be able to put that you really need very little of the movie to resemble the truth. Or Jason LaConfora could be lying, as per usual.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 I am just going to say this... I dont necessarily believe Rex is the problem and gets more of the blame than warranted. Granted, that comes with the job as a HC, but he isn't the guy out there seeing the field for Taylor when he doesnt see wide open options. He isn't the guy trying to rehab Sammy so he can stay on the field. He isn't the reason our top 2 draft picks got hurt before the season. He isn't the guy who caused Dareus to do what Dareus has always done by hurting himself. He isn't the guy that hurt AW. He isn't the guy who hurt many of our OL. He isn't the guy that makes Robert Woods always fall down. He isn't the guy who keeps getting all of our WR's hurt. I mean there is a lot of things that went wrong for this team, but honestly, it wasn't much different than the things that always seem to go wrong with this team. He still managed a .500 record last year and can still finish with a .500 or winning record this year as we almost certainly beat Cle next week to get back to .500 with 2 games to play. I think a lot of the negativity around Rex has carried over from his time with the Jets, and he gets more criticism than earned because of it. Has he been a perfect coach, no, but no coach is perfect. Players love playing for him, and this team has mostly been competitive in almost all of its losses. It never seems to give up, even against Pittsburgh as awful of a game as it was, this team found a way to actually have a chance at winning if not for Carp's screw ups. Taylor was a young learning QB last year, and this year he didn't take the next step. How can people sit back and say Taylor is terrible then be mad at Rex for not having us in the playoffs? The bottom line is simple, Taylor is and has been the best QB on the roster in Rex's 2 years. EJ started 2 games and lost both, TT has a .500 record as the starter. Rex can only coach whats on the roster, and it doesn't make it easier when your firepower is on the sidelines with injuries. But he still has this team competitive. If they are going to fire him, to me it has no value until the end of the season unless the FO and him are at impasse in regards to which QB to play. I do think there is the potential he gets fired, I just don't necessarily think it solves our problems. If we do fire him, I still think the best replacements should be proven winners who command respect and discipline like Coughlin, even Cowher. People say the game has passed Cowher by, but I dont buy it as he is still very much involved in the game every week and isn't clueless to the type of game the league is playing today. I didn't see enough of a fight in yesterday's game to warrant this. They came out flat and stayed that way for most of the game. The lack of compete by the D in the run game was astounding.
plenzmd1 Posted December 12, 2016 Posted December 12, 2016 Alpha, you make some good points, but the lack of mental toughness on this team the last two years is readily apparent in my estimation. Any little adversity, and they crumble. Yes, QB is a big part of that, but that D does not exactly make stops at critical junctures either. And yes, it has been that way for 17 years...dont care. Keep trying until you find someone that changes it. The Bills D is making the same simple communication errors it game 13 of year 2 as it made in game 1 of year 1 under Rex. Think i counted 4 times yesterday when the Bills were late getting the right D players on the field...that is just not acceptable.
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