Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 But I did like the Takeo Spikes signing, brought in Bledsoe while that move didn't work out well it did put Buffalo on the map of being relevant again. As to QB what other choice did he have besides Johnson, the midget? the same midget who told the Bills he wasn't going to live in Buffalo for the off-season to workout with the team. Donohoe's signature initial moves were to hire Gregg Williams, go with Rob Johnson, and exile Ted Washington. These decisions put him deep in the hole, and he never was able to climb out despite drafting/signing the occasional good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Just wait unit this off season, the Bills are going to be a mess. 1. CAP 2. Free Agents 3. No QB. And Clay/McCoy contracts... And, the Bills won't be playing the NFC West next year. Last year it was "The Bills won't be playing the crappy NFC East next year, they've got the tough NFC West" This year it is "The Bills won't be playing the crappy NFC West next year, they've got the tough NFC South" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Bucky Gleason @ByBuckyGleason 2m2 minutes ago Whaley likely to remain Bills general manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I'm a Whaley fan. I feel he's brought in and drafted some really good talent. Unfortunately the coaching isn't taking advantage of it. It didn't help him with Lawson missing time and Ragland missing the entire year. We just got to get the Qb situation figured out.There is the rub. Until the Quarterback position is solidified Whaley is just another GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Bucky Gleason @ByBuckyGleason 2m2 minutes ago Whaley likely to remain Bills general manager. 18 and counting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Bucky Gleason @ByBuckyGleason 2m2 minutes ago Whaley likely to remain Bills general manager. somethings never change 7-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 And my favorite, often repeated by two lazy nitwits on WGR, one of whom believes he is a bulldog of sorts, whining about the trade up to get Watkins. You would think Whaley gave up the entire future of the franchise by giving up first round pick (19th overall) in the following year. But they can never tell you who that future hall of fame player was that the Bills missed out on by giving up that 19th pick. Go ahead, look at that draft and tell me what player available there could have turned this franchise around. I guarantee that your Bulldog was to lazy to even research that. Hey it's easier to just go on the air and shoot from the uninformed hip. BTW - if you do find such a player, what's the guarantee the Bills would have picked him. You're under the assumption that the job of the radio guys is to be accurate or put some sort of effort towards being reasonable. It's not. Their job is to attract listeners which means they will say whatever gets people listening. They will lie, make stuff up, pander to the audience, takes thing way out of context, etc. because it gets the "loons" who believe it and then it gets the people who are aghast that they would say these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) I can understand why people would be frustrated with Whaley, but I'm fine with him. He's put together a talented football team, outside of QB, and frankly there's only 10 or so good QBs in the league, with most of them having been around a long time. So, easier said than done there. Coaching is where our big issues are. We'd be doing just fine if we had a defense. Even with a mediocre QB in TT. Edited December 11, 2016 by Dorkington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Whaley is the best GM we've had since the 90's. Better than Donahoe, Levy, and Nix. The mold takes time and he inherited a team with very little talent overall. His drafts, trades, and FA pickups have completely turned around the talent level on this team. We are still lacking a legit passer at the QB position and a coach to bring it all together. If we could get the legit QB then even Rex could succeed if you ask me. No one can argue that the team has been any better overall talent wise in the last 17 years. Maybe the early 2000's had a little better defense lingering from the previous regime, but overall it's comparable. To be great we need a legit QB and the right coach would just be the icing on the cake. And Whaley had the ability to draft a WR not named Watkins, make a move and draft Carr or Bridgewater. Could've drafted Dak Prescott but decided Adolphus Washington was more critical. Lacking a QB is a big problem, refusing to solve it is inexcusable. The guy is more of a scout than a team builder with vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I can understand why people would be frustrated with Whaley, but I'm fine with him. He's put together a talented football team, I don't get why so many people are fine with him. Talented teams win, we don't. Talent makes plays. Our team talent is over-rated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 And Whaley had the ability to draft a WR not named Watkins, make a move and draft Carr or Bridgewater. Could've drafted Dak Prescott but decided Adolphus Washington was more critical. Lacking a QB is a big problem, refusing to solve it is inexcusable. The guy is more of a scout than a team builder with vision. He can't scout offense worth a chit. He is part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtbag Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I don't get why so many people are fine with him. Talented teams win, we don't. Talent makes plays. Our team talent is over-rated it's astonishing. at some point, you would think that people will realize personnel trumps everything else. great gm's tend to have more that 1 winning season on their resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Bucky Gleason @ByBuckyGleason 2m2 minutes ago Whaley likely to remain Bills general manager. 7-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) Thank god I'll be occupied on Sunday's next year... LOL the best idea yet. Have alternative plans for Sundays just in case Edited December 11, 2016 by MarkyMannn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack_in_MA Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 You're under the assumption that the job of the radio guys is to be accurate or put some sort of effort towards being reasonable. It's not. Their job is to attract listeners which means they will say whatever gets people listening. They will lie, make stuff up, pander to the audience, takes thing way out of context, etc. because it gets the "loons" who believe it and then it gets the people who are aghast that they would say these things. Sounds like a certain PEOTUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkgobills Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Whaley and the Bills FO do a better job with pro talent evaluation than college talent evaluation. Overall, I think he has done a good job adding talent to a roster that had holes all over the place when he took over. However, if Pegs wants to clean house (including Whaley) to attempt to fully change the culture I'm all good with that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 18 and counting. Bottom Line! And it aint happrning next year either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Bucky Gleason @ByBuckyGleason 2m2 minutes ago Whaley likely to remain Bills general manager. Whaley is apparently better at playing the political game with ownership than he is at drafting and putting a team together. Wheels keep spinning in mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 You're under the assumption that the job of the radio guys is to be accurate or put some sort of effort towards being reasonable. It's not. Their job is to attract listeners which means they will say whatever gets people listening. They will lie, make stuff up, pander to the audience, takes thing way out of context, etc. because it gets the "loons" who believe it and then it gets the people who are aghast that they would say these things. Correct me if I'm wrong, the media does not scout, evaluate, or draft players; nor does it sign free agents nor make personnel decisions. WGR or the print media do not develop or execute game plans, offensive or defensive systems. Sully or Bucky Gleason did not have decision-making authority over the LOUSY first round picks over the last several years of who coaches the team. And I don't need the media to inform the Bills are a losing organization, I know that! This organization has a losing culture, and changes need to happen, including Whaley. Whaley is apparently better at playing the political game with ownership than he is at drafting and putting a team together. Wheels keep spinning in mud. Even Ray Charles can see that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Honestly Whaleys decision to draft Shaq should cost him his job. Horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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