Peter Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 ScottLaw and Mr. WEO in the same thread back to back . . . echo echo. Thank you for proving my point guys.
Thurman#1 Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) I guess you could make that argument. But in your hypothetical, just think about what you're saying here: Vic believed that the Bills were going to go into Oakland and beat the then 9-2 Raiders who, along with the Cowboys, are everyone's darlings right now. So how do you go from THAT, to THIS in less than 5 days? I just can't reconcile that disparity. It's the Love/Hate nonsense that's expected of a fan on this board. When you get extra information, like a key game in a sixteen game season, reasonable people do change their mind based on the extra info. It's how clear thought works. Edited December 8, 2016 by Thurman#1
May Day 10 Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 How can and should this organization be beyond criticism? Because some outside, external factors prevent them from having a capable quarterback for almost 2 decades? "Haters?"
Mr. WEO Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 ScottLaw and Mr. WEO in the same thread back to back . . . echo echo. Thank you for proving my point guys. You and the few like you rarely make points though (see your post above). You simply remark on others who make critical comments--even if you have no constructive counter arguments. You don't participate, you snipe at the participants.
Pirate Angel Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 How does a head coach claim to be mentally tough when he admits he was scared of the other teams offense?
Thurman#1 Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) And by Bills logic this translates into firing the OC and blaming the QB. Scoring allowed is NOT only a defensive stat. You think it didn't tire the defense out and impair their efficiency just a bit when four of our last five offensive drives ended in three-and-outs and and a first play INT? Including two drive starts in Buffalo territory (the Buff 16 and the Buff 38)? The reason the offense is getting criticism is that they're not good at passing. The fact that the defense also isn't playing well doesn't mean the offense is. The article is very reasonable. Edited December 8, 2016 by Thurman#1
bobobonators Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) When you get extra information, like a key game in a sixteen game season, reasonable people do change their mind based on the extra info. It's how clear thought works. In sports clear thought only works after the season. We dont know if we're going to finish 10-6 or 6-10, and neither does Vic. Everything else is noise. Unless Vic is putting on a helmet and padding up this sunday. Edited December 8, 2016 by bobobonators
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 You can't say "I thought the Bills were going to beat Oakland" 5 days ago, and now there are serious concerns 5 days later. That represents the bipolar nature of being a Buffalo Bills sports fan and nothing more - the very same things we see in this forum. Did you watch the game? Because if you did, you saw a bipolar team executing and competing in their own peculiar bipolar fashion. The team that took the field in the 1st quarter whipped and battered the Raiders. The Raiders were on the verge of being steamrolled. Then there was the 2nd half team. Sacks, turnovers, 3-and-outs, couldn't stop anything, couldn't tackle, couldn't line up. Bipolar is the perfect word for the egg the Bills laid.
bananathumb Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Vic is right. Ryan is not a very good coach, Whaley can't draft and the team lacks everything good except a running game. We all knew that lead wouldn't last. It's the Blo way.
Fadingpain Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 I have said a long time ago: No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo media. Let me amend that: No one circles the wagons like the haters on this board. This place is an echo chamber for the haters. You mean other than the small army of kool aid drinkers who dominate every thread as they rack up their posts in the tens of thousands?
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 You mean other than the small army of kool aid drinkers who dominate every thread as they rack up their posts in the tens of thousands? Well, there is plenty of room on the bandwagon for more people to crow about how Brandon improved Wilson's personal profit margins with the Toronto deal.
BaaadThingsMan Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 90% of the fan base is sick of Rex and wants him fired. Maybe Vic is trying to help with that. I have said a long time ago: No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo media. Let me amend that: No one circles the wagons like the haters on this board. This place is an echo chamber for the haters. is it wagons or pitchforks?
jimmy10 Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 "It's a problem when players, such as veteran outside linebacker Lorenzo Alexander, come away from a game like Sunday's and say it reveals the Bills as "average" and reinforces the need for "changing the culture around here," a familiar take at which he arrived in less than a full season in Buffalo." Boom. I may be late to the party here, but has anyone pointed out how horribly out of context Vic applies 'Zo's quote there? He was pretty clearly talking about making the playoffs and thus changing the culture around the team and city, not indicting the coaches, the Pegulas, or anybody else. I appreciate some good sh*t-stirring, god knows I do enough of it in my life, but Vic is gonna pull a muscle reaching so hard.
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