MAJBobby Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 8 yards passing by our QB during Raiders scoring run. Guess he doesn't need to throw and all on defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 8 yards passing by our QB during Raiders scoring run. Guess he doesn't need to throw and all on defense It was brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Lol. You must've missed it, but the defense didn't do a !@#$ing thing in that quarter either. The entire team was a disaster for most of the second half. That includes both the offense and defense. Yikes. You are stubborn. Stringing together four consecutive drives in which you don't gain a first, with one of them terminating inside your own 15. Do you honestly believe that none of this takes its toll on the defense? This is a yes or no question. Answer accordingly or don't answer at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Stringing together four consecutive drives in which you don't gain a first, with one of them terminating inside your own 15. Do you honestly believe that none of this takes its toll on the defense? This is a yes or no question. Answer accordingly or don't answer at all. I do. It started with the wildcat twice in a row drive followed by an awful Tyrod throw on 3rd down - then an absolutely miserable punt. We seem to make our mistakes in 3's when we begin to implode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) Stringing together four consecutive drives in which you don't gain a first, with one of them terminating inside your own 15. Do you honestly believe that none of this takes its toll on the defense? This is a yes or no question. Answer accordingly or don't answer at all. This time I have to agree with you. Tyrod left the defense out to dry today. Your QB has to be able to make basic throws and he just can't. Also, this punter has a real knack for botching kicks at Key times. Edited December 5, 2016 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 You're just going to dismiss that the offense ran a total of <5 min of TOP over 5 drives against what everyone knew was a great offense who was playing at home? The offense did...NOTHING...for a full quarter. A quarter. An entire !@#$ing quarter of the game. If you read my post I said it was a team loss. All around. You on the other hand are defending rex ryan and his defence?? 29 points. In 12 minutes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 This time I have to agree with you. Tyrod left the defense out to dry today. Your QB has to be able to make basic throws and he just can't. Also, this punter has a real knack for botching kicks at Key times. WGR hammering this point right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 If you read my post I said it was a team loss. All around. You on the other hand are defending rex ryan and his defence?? 29 points. In 12 minutes... Defending the defense? No. If that was your takeaway then it's you who needs to re-read. Saying what is patently obvious: that the offense's inability to do LITERALLY ANYTHING lost us the game is NOT an excuse for the defense. It's not a defense of the defense. It's not an alibi for Rex Ryan. Take all your biases and check them. And listen to what people are actually saying. WGR hammering this point right now Which point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) Defending the defense? No. If that was your takeaway then it's you who needs to re-read. Saying what is patently obvious: that the offense's inability to do LITERALLY ANYTHING lost us the game is NOT an excuse for the defense. It's not a defense of the defense. It's not an alibi for Rex Ryan. Take all your biases and check them. And listen to what people are actually saying. Which point? I think you need to calm down a bit bud lol, no need to insult here. Just talking football. And yes I did take your point as you defending the defence. My apologies if that's not what you meant Edited December 5, 2016 by billsfan11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Defending the defense? No. If that was your takeaway then it's you who needs to re-read. Saying what is patently obvious: that the offense's inability to do LITERALLY ANYTHING lost us the game is NOT an excuse for the defense. It's not a defense of the defense. It's not an alibi for Rex Ryan. Take all your biases and check them. And listen to what people are actually saying. Which point? The ineptitude of the offense hanging the defense out to dry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I think you need to calm down a bit bud lol, no need to insult here. Just talking football. And yes I did take your point as you defending the defence. My apologies if that's not what you meant it's been routinely misinterpreted thusly. apologies for making you the target of 14+ months of frustration with a select few posters who keep making this "mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 and will continue to do so by the way....it is CHURCH of Tyrod....not Cult of Tyrod. Tyrod Taylor is a fine young man I was gonna say i never heard of cult of tyrod before. That was new. You obviously like him. Much respect to your unwavering support of number 5 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Come admit you were wrong. You ARE and always have been wrong. Take your medicine. I think he could make a good slot back tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 The COT should be listening to WGR right now they are Killing Taylor's mechanics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 it's been routinely misinterpreted thusly. apologies for making you the target of 14+ months of frustration with a select few posters who keep making this "mistake. I hear ya sir. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Did I miss something? Was TT rushing the passer? No but he was missing the throws The COT should be listening to WGR right now they are Killing Taylor's mechanics TTT Terrible Tyrod Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 The worst thing about the whole Flutie/Johnson era wasn't that Flutie was treated unfairly or that Johnson didn't get a chance, it was that Bills fans wasted a ton of energy arguing over two QBS who were career backups at best. Neither guy was a quality starter, but it didn't stop the endless crusades either way. Taylor isn't an NFL quality passer. No freakin' duh. It's delusional to think he will ever be one. However, he is an effective runner, and the Bills offense is a great at running the ball; it is the strongest part of their team. They built a 24-9 lead on the strength of their running game today. And then during the next four drives, they ran the ball FOUR times. A more interesting conversation might be why this coaching staff refuses to call plays to the team's strength. As for finding Taylor's replacement, good luck with this front office. As a team executive, Whaley has passed on Russell Wilson, Derek Carr, Dak Prescott and Kirk Cousins. Instead, Whaley has drafted two specimens who have little accuracy and less football sense. For too long it seems that if a QB isn't six foot four, Bills management has no interest in him. And Whaley fits this mold. So what's the argument here? Taylor is a lousy passer? Might as well waste time arguing water is wet. Should the Bills look for his replacement? Of course they should. In fact, if they had any clue on how to evaluate QBS, they would have drafted Prescott in the 3rd last year, instead of drafting Rex another DT for his moronic defensive scheme. Would Jones be better? Probably not this year. He's inaccurate, has problems reading defense, and this idiotic 7 step drop vertical passing scheme the Bills play would do him no favors. But the season is shot, so what the hell, put the rookie in. What's the answer? You have to seriously ask yourself is the current front office and coaching staff is capable of developing a franchise QB. Is Whaley capable of truly scouting the position. Will Rex spend high round picks on offense to support a young QB or will he use them on his defense. Will the coaching staff install a more passer-friendly offense, with 3 step drops, slants and screens. Until those things happen, the fans are stuck in Flutie/Johnson debate hell. Turning on one another arguing over QBs who aren't and never will be NFL quality starters, unrealistically hoping that the people who run the team rise above their own ineptitude, get lucky, and draft a true franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 No but he was missing the throws TTT Terrible Tyrod Taylor Huge rant on his Hitch steps on three step drops and never getting the ball out in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I defend them when I think they are right and I criticise them when I think they are wrong. If they take up Tyrod's option I will criticise. It would be a ridiculous decision. he is seriously regressing and this game was a microcosm of that; Started out good end up inaccurate and unconfident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 At this point I am absolutely not opposed to an open competition for QB going next year....I am wondering if we should have made Tyrod earn it THIS year Sounds like a good plan to me? They were so enamored with how he was top player in all the drills how he seemed to take control of the huddle in ota and tc. He showed that it clicked and took the next step. The problem was they didnt want to bring any one in to compete with tyrod like they said IN THOSE WORDS. Even if he had a competition he beat EJ last year and that would almost be beating a dead horse. The longest drought in pro sports I would assume every position was a competition. Thats our problem. We get ok and think its great. That explains the current state of the franchise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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