NoSaint Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 wtf?! He surrendered his weapon and there were eyewitnesses! Having a witness say something anonymously in the press isn't always compatible with what other evidence is showing. They also may just be charging him in the very near future. I don't know a ton on this one but those are broad reminders I give during any publicized case early in the process
boyst Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) This isn't a 2nd amendment issue. And "defending your life" with a gun when the other person doesn't have one. That makes one a murderer most times and a pu$$y. you're attacking the 2nd amendment. And that's your opinion. As well as defending yourself with a gun when someone else's doesn't have one is also your opinion. Soooo.. you've got opinions. They're really special and all unique. But... you've turned it into a second amendment issue. You have the right to defend yourself with a gun in this country. Its a federal law and 46 States seem to be in agreement with this viewpoint. Again, go here if you're so passionate. Else wise, I'm done with you on this topic Gug. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/169012-what-is-better-no-guns-or-more-guns/?view=getnewpost I'd rather be a kitty with a gun than assaulted with out one. Then again, I've never been accused of being a kitty Edited December 2, 2016 by Boyst62
Andrew Son Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 you're attacking the 2nd amendment. And that's your opinion. As well as defending yourself with a gun when someone else's doesn't have one is also your opinion. Soooo.. you've got opinions. They're really special and all unique. But... you've turned it into a second amendment issue. You have the right to defend yourself with a gun in this country. Its a federal law and 46 States seem to be in agreement with this viewpoint. Again, go here if you're so passionate. Else wise, I'm done with you on this topic Gug. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/169012-what-is-better-no-guns-or-more-guns/?view=getnewpost That's a good idea. No one wants to head over to a NRA convention (PPP) to have a "balanced" discussion on gun laws
boyst Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) That's a good idea. No one wants to head over to a NRA convention (PPP) to have a "balanced" discussion on gun laws of course not because none of you can make a valid point on the subject to save your life. If you could you'd have no problem. But of course you won't try. And that's sad. Prayer for the victims of the gun viokence in Columbus with Tim Kaine, while you're at it Edit. Seriously. You all protest PPP because its "not fair" but do nothing to try to change that. Don't participate. Don't nuffin Its like those whining over trump who didn't even vote. And its a mockery that this type of liberal BS is tolerated on TSW when anything conservative is battled. Next you'll accuse me of racism, womanizing etc Edited December 2, 2016 by Boyst62
Southern Bills Fan Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Eyewitnesses are the worst kind. Everyone sees things differently and many times lie to promote their side of the story. Remember all the eyewitnesses who saw Michael Brown with his hands up, trying to surrender. It was a total lie, hence the "hands up, don't shoot". Let the evidence play out.
Kirby Jackson Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 I don't know where this got sidetracked but it wasn't a 2nd amendment conversation. The 2nd amendment gives people the right to bear arms, not the right to shoot someone in a road rage incident. That is superseded by murder charges. FWIW, my fiancé used to work with Joe McKnight at a Wing Zone. She was a few years older and was actually his manager (it was right around Katrina). At any rate, she really liked him and most everyone that spent time with Joe said the same things. He was very well liked by teammates, coaches, and the media. This is a senseless act of violence and there is no other way to look at it.
Southern Bills Fan Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 First Will Smith and now this. I know we may only hear about these when it's a famous person but are road rage shootings common in Nola (or south in general)? Don't hear about these in Ohio. I hope that you are being sarcastic? I'm sure that no one has ever been shot in Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus or Toledo? "And since you seem unclear on the concept, that was sarcasm"-Sterling Archer.
frogger Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 you're attacking the 2nd amendment. And that's your opinion. As well as defending yourself with a gun when someone else's doesn't have one is also your opinion. Soooo.. you've got opinions. They're really special and all unique. But... you've turned it into a second amendment issue. You have the right to defend yourself with a gun in this country. Its a federal law and 46 States seem to be in agreement with this viewpoint. Again, go here if you're so passionate. Else wise, I'm done with you on this topic Gug. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/169012-what-is-better-no-guns-or-more-guns/?view=getnewpost I'd rather be a kitty with a gun than assaulted with out one. Then again, I've never been accused of being a kitty Boyst62, do yourself a favor and go back to the PPP, you don't have to respond to our posts...nor do you have to try to insult anyone, that is one of the reasons I don't go to the PPP board, I have very valid points that I believe in, much like you believe in your points. But, going to the PPP board and trying to express them is much like trying to call into Rush or Hannity, the audience attacks you. Actually, this whole post took a terribly wrong turn, I apologize for my part. A young man who did not deserve to die, is dead today. I hope my city doesn't fall apart.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 @RapSheet Per Jefferson Parish PIO, Ronald Gasser, suspect in the Thurs shooting of Joe McKnight, was released from custody and not formally charged.
Andrew Son Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Boyst62, do yourself a favor and go back to the PPP, you don't have to respond to our posts...nor do you have to try to insult anyone, that is one of the reasons I don't go to the PPP board, I have very valid points that I believe in, much like you believe in your points. But, going to the PPP board and trying to express them is much like trying to call into Rush or Hannity, the audience attacks you. Actually, this whole post took a terribly wrong turn, I apologize for my part. A young man who did not deserve to die, is dead today. I hope my city doesn't fall apart. Agreed and well said. RIP Joe
Peter Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 I don't know where this got sidetracked but it wasn't a 2nd amendment conversation. The 2nd amendment gives people the right to bear arms, not the right to shoot someone in a road rage incident. That is superseded by murder charges. FWIW, my fiancé used to work with Joe McKnight at a Wing Zone. She was a few years older and was actually his manager (it was right around Katrina). At any rate, she really liked him and most everyone that spent time with Joe said the same things. He was very well liked by teammates, coaches, and the media. This is a senseless act of violence and there is no other way to look at it. Indeed. Bill Cosby said something interesting about the Zimmerman matter that "appears" to apply here. Cosby said that, if Zimmerman never had that gun, he probably never would have gotten out of his car to confront Martin and the incident never would have happened. Here, according to the eyewitness: "The woman said a man was yelling at the athlete, who looked like he was apologizing, when he pulled out a gun and shot McKnight multiple times. She said the shooter then stood over the fallen footballer and said, 'I told you don’t f–k with me' and fired one more time." Having a gun gives certain people a sense of bravado that they would not otherwise have. Again, whether you agree wholeheartedly with the NRA or do not, it is still an interesting point. The question sometimes is not whether you can do something (or have the right to do so), but whether you should. The whole thing is senseless. A young man has lost his life (his family and friends have lost him) over something as trivial as a traffic incident and another guy not wanting to be "f-ked with."
YoloinOhio Posted December 2, 2016 Author Posted December 2, 2016 I hope that you are being sarcastic? I'm sure that no one has ever been shot in Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus or Toledo? "And since you seem unclear on the concept, that was sarcasm"-Sterling Archer. as you can see from my post, I was referring specifically to road rage shootings. And as I said, I am sure that we hear about them more when it is a famous person. No, I dont hear about road rage shootings here.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 @RapSheet Per Jefferson Parish PIO, Ronald Gasser, suspect in the Thurs shooting of Joe McKnight, was released from custody and not formally charged. @NOLAnews #BREAKING: Ronald Gasser, suspect in Joe McKnight's killing, released from custody http://trib.al/tpH8uTc
DC Greg Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Disgusting. They better charge this guy and soon. Can't believe he was released.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 There must be conflicting eye witness accounts. Get a dash cam.
Andrew Son Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) There must be conflicting eye witness accounts. Get a dash cam. Regardless, they should be able to tell if he stood over him and fired again Edited December 2, 2016 by SWATeam
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Regardless, they should be able to tell if him stood over him and fired again It was a busy intersection, there are many eye witnesses. It's even on video.
CommonCents Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Was it a car accident or just road rage? If it's road rage why the heck would JM be outside of his car apologizing? Just say sorry and drive off? I hope they get more details and if the guy was straddling JM and "finishing him off" then he needs to be locked up regardless of what lead to that point.
wnyguy Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Standing over him and firing another bullet into the unarmed guy is an execution. How can they release him?
Southern Bills Fan Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 as you can see from my post, I was referring specifically to road rage shootings. And as I said, I am sure that we hear about them more when it is a famous person. No, I dont hear about road rage shootings here. Then either you don't watch the news or know how to work Google. Ashtabula, OH- 10/7/16 Solon, OH- 8/27/16 Tipp City, OH- 8/28/16 Clayton, OH-8/17/16 There is quite a list if you bother to look.
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