metzelaars_lives Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Guys, these posts HAVE to stop once and for all. We've all seen em. Some harmless guy starts a thread about how the Bills are now the 10th ranked defense, WHICH THEY ARE, and then predictably, the "yeah buts" begin. This idea that, "well we only beat these teams" and "yeah ok but this guy's stats were in garbage time" or my favorite, "well if you take out this game or that pass..." is beyond idiotic. EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL PLAYS AGAINST S****Y TEAMS. EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL FARES BETTER AGAINST S****Y TEAMS THAN THEY DO AGAINST GOOD TEAMS. EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL GETS AND GIVES UP GARBAGE TIME YARDS/POINTS SOMETIMES. NO TEAMS MORE THAN OTHERS. IT ALL BALANCES OUT. They are what their record is; they are what their stats are- the team as well as the individuals. Are there certain outlier situations like a team does worse against the pass because they're always up in games? Or all Blake Bortles' garbage time numbers last year? Sure. But every year, it's the same thing with you guys: well sure we're ranked this but we're really more like that because of this. Just stop. The Bills are just like every other team. They're not some special team whose circumstances are radically different from every other teams' every single season. Thank you.
metzelaars_lives Posted November 30, 2016 Author Posted November 30, 2016 OK, that should fix it. Aint it about time someone said that?
Augie Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Aint it about time someone said that? I don't deny that, but I do agree we have to do some winning to get back to only half crazy.
metzelaars_lives Posted November 30, 2016 Author Posted November 30, 2016 Make the playoffs then they stop One has nothing to do with the other. The Bills' playoff drought has nothing to do with how legitimate their 10th overall defensive ranking is in 2016.
BringBackFergy Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Are you wearing a safety pin by chance?
MAJBobby Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 One has nothing to do with the other. The Bills' playoff drought has nothing to do with how legitimate their 10th overall defensive ranking is in 2016. Just because people take issue with the BS metric who cares. Yards allowed is a BS metric.
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If the Bills defense was ranked 27th and someone tried saying they're really better than that I would've said the exact same thing. People try and twist numbers in a positive direction too. This is an accuracy thing.
CardinalScotts Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 yes that team that plays an opponent playing .825 football every week regardless of that opponents schedule.......its bitching to B word
Saxum Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 If the posts stopped then number of responses would go down and then searches for Bills Suck in search engines would go down and psychiatrist costs would go up for posters who would tell shrinks "Medication is not working and alternate way to get stress out but blathering like an idiot is no longer available". Do you really wish that metzelaars_lives?
metzelaars_lives Posted November 30, 2016 Author Posted November 30, 2016 Just because people take issue with the BS metric who cares. Yards allowed is a BS metric. You're missing the point. For one, yards allowed is not a BS metric. It's not the end-all-be-all but it's not like random teams are ranked way higher or lower than you'd think they'd be. As a general rule, the best defenses are at the top and vice versa. The point is that people always assert that the Bills are the only team with special circumstances and no other team plays against the Browns or beats a team with an injured QB or gets a bunch of sacks at once or gives a bunch of yards in one game or gets a big chunk of yards in one play, etc., etc.
Augie Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 "You are what your record says you are". Now, where could we be headed in the future? That's the only question.
MAJBobby Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 You're missing the point. For one, yards allowed is not a BS metric. It's not the end-all-be-all but it's not like random teams are ranked way higher or lower than you'd think they'd be. As a general rule, the best defenses are at the top and vice versa. The point is that people always assert that the Bills are the only team with special circumstances and no other team plays against the Browns or beats a team with an injured QB or gets a bunch of sacks at once or gives a bunch of yards in one game or gets a big chunk of yards in one play, etc., etc. No I am not missing the point. Again I read the thread majority taking issue with the metric and yes it is BS. And yes also there is something to be said about the competition you played as well. That is called not taking a number in a vacuum that so many want to do
BringBackOrton Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Metz from Hemet is laugh out loud funny.
34-78-83 Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Guys, these posts HAVE to stop once and for all. We've all seen em. Some harmless guy starts a thread about how the Bills are now the 10th ranked defense, WHICH THEY ARE, and then predictably, the "yeah buts" begin. This idea that, "well we only beat these teams" and "yeah ok but this guy's stats were in garbage time" or my favorite, "well if you take out this game or that pass..." is beyond idiotic. EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL PLAYS AGAINST S****Y TEAMS. EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL FARES BETTER AGAINST S****Y TEAMS THAN THEY DO AGAINST GOOD TEAMS. EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL GETS AND GIVES UP GARBAGE TIME YARDS/POINTS SOMETIMES. NO TEAMS MORE THAN OTHERS. IT ALL BALANCES OUT. They are what their record is; they are what their stats are- the team as well as the individuals. Are there certain outlier situations like a team does worse against the pass because they're always up in games? Or all Blake Bortles' garbage time numbers last year? Sure. But every year, it's the same thing with you guys: well sure we're ranked this but we're really more like that because of this. Just stop. The Bills are just like every other team. They're not some special team whose circumstances are radically different from every other teams' every single season. Thank you. Very good point. The internet is full of contrarians. I think people cannot help themselves. There is some form of self-validation they achieve through it.
Maury Ballstein Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) So is Tyrod good or nah Wth is the OP talking about ? Is it code for something ? Edited November 30, 2016 by Ryan L Billz
Gugny Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 "You are what your record says you are". Now, where could we be headed in the future? That's the only question. Exactly. This team went 8-8 last year with a painfully easy schedule. They are on pace for another .500-ish season. I'm sorry. But for the 17th year ... that !@#$ing sucks. And there is no sugar coating it. It sucks.
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