Simon Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) Correct. I think it should be based on the results on the field, not the subjective view of who the four 'best' teams might be. A team that wasn't good enough to win it's own conference isn't deserving. What if Bama loses it conference championship game by a point because their QB was out with food poisoning? What if undefeated OSU loses an OT conference championship game to a two loss team on the last play because of a blown call? There's just no real advantage to having the criteria be so rigid that you can't allow for circumstances. And what's the point of having a huge Michigan-OSU or Alabama-LSU game in late November if both are going to be put in the playoff anyway? Because chances are one of those teams is probably going to need a win to get in. And if they both happen to be undefeated then the point is to see undefeated rivals go at it regardless of seeding or standings. I think college should be different than how it works with the pros. Of course it should be different; conference and schedule strength make it an entirely different scenario. The pros automatically put their division winners in the postseason; there's no reason for colleges to do that too. Edited December 4, 2016 by Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 If they determined a non-power 5 champ or an Independent was one of the four most deserving teams (obviously not the case this year). Of course there is still going to be some subjectivity in the process but you remove a lot of it if you say only conference champs (or an Independent) are eligible. Then why wouldn't everyone want to be an independent? It's a much easier road if that's the case. As an example of ND had the EXACT same resume as OSU this year they'd be a lock. That's the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 What if Bama loses it conference championship game by a point because their QB was out with food poisoning? What if undefeated OSU loses an OT conference championship game to a two loss team on the last play because of a blown call? There's just no real advantage to having the criteria be so rigid that you can't allow for circumstances. Because chances are one of those teams is probably going to need a win to get in. And if they both happen to be undefeated then the point is to see undefeated rivals go at it regardless of seeding or standings. Of course it should be different; conference and schedule strength make it an entirely different scenario. The pros automatically put their division winners in the postseason; there's no reason for colleges to do that too. yep, no auto-bids in cfb. Season long resume scrutinized from all angles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 The committee got it right IMO. 4 teams in the power 5 had 1 loss or less. That's whose playing.., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 No surprises. @AdamSchefter 1. Alabama 2. Clemson 3. Ohio State 4. Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 The committee got it right IMO. 4 teams in the power 5 had 1 loss or less. That's whose playing..,too much mental gymnastics to try to do it any other way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 @RJinVegas Penn St would be underdogs vs 9 TEAMS Alabama by 16 Ohio St by 8 Clemson by 7 Wash by 6 USC by 6 LSU by 6 Mich by 5 Okla by 4 Flor St by 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Well, they've proven that giving yourself an easy schedule or winning your conference means nothing. Good job guys. With how Penn St has been playing and as good as Michigan is, I don't see these as the best 4 teams. Ultimately, they need a 6-8 team playoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 theozone.net Urban's first grandchild is named Troy. Touching tribute to his first natty Oh snap that's not right Yolo name him falcon. If not for the falcons he would have never been able to take flight. He was allowed the freedom to develop his own system and shape what became of his Utah future then Florida. He's been fun to follow and I've never met a man who didn't have his charisma and intensity combined with the actual ability to snake oil you before coming off sleezy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Well, they've proven that giving yourself an easy schedule or winning your conference means nothing. Good job guys. With how Penn St has been playing and as good as Michigan is, I don't see these as the best 4 teams. Ultimately, they need a 6-8 team playoff FBS is more crooked than FIFA or the IOC. Ultimately it's about money, not who's best The committee got it right IMO. 4 teams in the power 5 had 1 loss or less. That's whose playing.., So you apparently don't care that the Pac10 is hot garbage. Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) Well, they've proven that giving yourself an easy schedule or winning your conference means nothing. Good job guys. With how Penn St has been playing and as good as Michigan is, I don't see these as the best 4 teams. Ultimately, they need a 6-8 team playoff Washington had an easy OOC schedule but only 1 loss to a good team and a conf championship. OSU had 1 loss to the #5 team on the road at night by 3... and their strength of record showed it was 5x harder to get to 11-1 with their schedule than it was for PSU to get to 11-2 with their schedule. The committee didn't think PSU was better because of all of the factors involved. Michigan lost 2 of their last 3 with a terrible loss to Iowa (who had 4 losses and got beat by FCS North Dakota state). As I described earlier, SOS and conf championships only come into play as tiebreakers. They didn't need any tiebreakers. Edited December 4, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Washington had an easy OOC schedule but only 1 loss to a good team and a conf championship. OSU had 1 loss to the #5 team on the road at night by 3... and their strength of record showed it was 5x harder to get to 11-1 with their schedule than it was for PSU to get to 11-2 with their schedule. The committee didn't think PSU was better because of all of the factors involved. Michigan lost 2 of their last 3 with a terrible loss to Iowa... Look for Washington to lose by 40. But hey at least the granola eaters out west won't be whining about east coast bias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Washington had an easy OOC schedule but only 1 loss to a good team and a conf championship. Which was also the only good team they had on their schedule. Alabama might beat them by 5 touchdowns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Which was also the only good team they had on their schedule. Alabama might beat them by 5 touchdowns Yep as much as I despise Alabama I'm rooting for them to smoke that **** team and toll over the suckeyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 FBS is more crooked than FIFA or the IOC. Ultimately it's about money, not who's best So you apparently don't care that the Pac10 is hot garbage. Ok I don't love it but I think that they certainly have a case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 the suckeyesyou're dead to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 you're dead to me HA it's my turn to be bitter. The system makes zero sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Look for Washington to lose by 40. But hey at least the granola eaters out west won't be whining about east coast bias i think Sparty's performance last year in the playoffs burned the committee on letting in a conference champ that beat OSU head to head but may not have been the better team when it comes to matching up with the other conferences. They put them in and they got brutally exposed. They know that OSU team would have competed with Bama last year with all those NFL guys. Whether they can this year is another story... very young team, not sure they can get past Clemson but they earned the spot with the other wins they have this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) Yep as much as I despise Alabama I'm rooting for them to smoke that **** team and toll over the suckeyes Don't worry, I'm thinking Clemson will smoke OSU. Barrett is awful, and Clemson scores points. My last question is why do we play conference championship games if they only matter when you lose? Still such a flawed system. Edited December 4, 2016 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I don't love it but I think that they certainly have a case. I don't think they do, but hey that's the foolishness we have to deal with in FBS Don't worry, I'm thinking Clemson will smoke OSU. Barrett is awful, and Clemson scores points. My last question is why do we play conference championship games if they only matter when you lose? Still such a flawed system. $$$$$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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