Simon Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) Conference championships should mean something. They should take the top 4 conference champs and that's it. I think if you limit it to that then every year you leave out at least one or two teams who would have a legitimate chance to win a championship. When you also factor in the disparity in the strength of the conferences, you don't end up with the best 4 teams either i.e. I don't think any Pac-12 champ is as good as the 2nd place teams in the Big 10, SEC, etc. Eight is just enough to get in any team who has earned a real shot. Plus we get twice as much football to watch! Edited December 4, 2016 by Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 This is what it should look like: (1) Alabama vs (8) Florida St (2) Ohio St vs (7) Michigan (3) Clemson vs (6) Oklahoma (4) Washington vs (5) Penn State You're not leaving out anybody who has a realistic chance to become champion by winning 3 straight against that level of competition. And you get a big ol' pile of awesome football games. I don't know if anyone but the die hard TTUP fan wants to play tOSU. Most I know would have them losing twice. I'd think most people would rather see PSU/TTUP. I'd move clemson to 2 against ichigan. Thatd be a good draw and tOSU @ 3 against Oklahoma. I think if you limit it to that then every year you leave out at least one or two teams who would have a legitimate chance to win a championship. When you also factor in the disparity in the strength of the conferences, you don't end up with the best 4 teams either i.e. I don't think any Pac-12 champ is as good as the 2nd place teams in the Big 10, SEC, etc. Eight is just enough to get in any team who has earned a real shot. Plus we get twice as much football to watch! agreed. The Boise State of a few yrs ago. The oncein a while surging MAC schools, etc. And then you'd simply have teams in the 4 conferences playing nobodies and not concerned with winning when their out of conference wins mean nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Conference championships should mean something. They should take the top 4 conference champs and that's it.if I recall correctly KD you're a ND fan... just wondering how they would ever get in with what you are suggesting. They aren't in a conference, and not every conference names a champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 The Boise State of a few yrs ago. The oncein a while surging MAC schools, etc. And then you'd simply have teams in the 4 conferences playing nobodies and not concerned with winning when their out of conference wins mean nothing You could also add to that list a couple regulars from the Big12 and a team like Houston in the next year or two. If they pick the best 8, you don't have to make a hard/fast rule that all 5 power conference winners get in every year, because they're almost always going to get in anyways. But at least leave the option open to put one of those MAC schools in there, or three SEC teams, or leave out WVU if they win the Big 12 with several losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 @SInow Real quick, here's how the blind College Football Playoff resumes of the top contenders shake out (by @Andy_Staples) http://on.si.com/2fWtQqa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) The problem is they have 2 losses. They would be leaving out either a 1 loss conference champ (Washington) or a 1 loss team with the strongest resume in the country (OSU). PSU has had a solid season but I'd be really surprised if they are in the playoff. I think that they play USC in the Rose Bowl.PAC 12 is garbage Penn State isn't going to the playoff. They MAY jump UM to go to the Rose Bowl. The playoff is the 3 one loss teams and Alabama.May? That's absurd Edited December 4, 2016 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 PAC 12 is garbage May? That's absurd I think that the Rose Bowl is PSU vs. USC & the Orange Bowl is UM vs. FSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) Flights from Columbus to Phoenix are over $1000 per seat ...it's safe to say buckeye nation thinks they're playing in the desert at this point Edited December 4, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I think that the Rose Bowl is PSU vs. USC & the Orange Bowl is UM vs. FSU. The very least psu deserves is the rose bowl. The very least. Also franklin for coach of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 The very least psu deserves is the rose bowl. The very least. Also franklin for coach of the yearAgree on Franklin, he's done an incredible job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 if I recall correctly KD you're a ND fan... just wondering how they would ever get in with what you are suggesting. They aren't in a conference, and not every conference names a champion. I didn't mean to imply the committee couldn't take a non-power 5 conference champ or an Independent in lieu of a potentially less deserving power 5 champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 The very least psu deserves is the rose bowl. Honestly, I'd rather see them in Pasadena with a chance to end an incredible season on a positive note, than to get pantsed by Alabama in front of 20 million people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 No sign of Urban or the Buckeyes yet on the show. Hes probably still recruiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 No sign of Urban or the Buckeyes yet on the show. Hes probably still recruiting.Becoming a grandpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) I think if you limit it to that then every year you leave out at least one or two teams who would have a legitimate chance to win a championship. When you also factor in the disparity in the strength of the conferences, you don't end up with the best 4 teams either i.e. I don't think any Pac-12 champ is as good as the 2nd place teams in the Big 10, SEC, etc. Eight is just enough to get in any team who has earned a real shot. Plus we get twice as much football to watch! Correct. I think it should be based on the results on the field, not the subjective view of who the four 'best' teams might be. A team that wasn't good enough to win it's own conference isn't deserving. PSU beat OSU and won the big 10; they should get in over OSU. And what's the point of having a huge Michigan-OSU or Alabama-LSU game in late November if both are going to be put in the playoff anyway? I think college should be different than how it works with the pros. Edited December 4, 2016 by KD in CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Becoming a grandpa He's missing it for the birth of his grandchild? I'm heading to the OSU message board......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Correct. I think it should be based on the results on the field, not the subjective view of who the four 'best' teams might be. A team that wasn't good enough to win it's own conference isn't deserving. PSU beat OSU and won the big 10; they should get in over OSU. What's the point of having a huge Michigan-OSU or Alabama-LSU game in late November if both are going to be put in the playoff anyway? I think college should be different than how it works with the pros. Then how could a non power 5 or independent get in? It would be 4 of the 5 conference champs and STILL subjective as to which is the worst power 5 conference. The resume has to determine it and PSU has a solid one, just not as good as OSU. It may be better than UW but they have 2 losses vs. UW having 1. The PSU story is a great one but I just don't see it. We will know soon enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) He's missing it for the birth of his grandchild? I'm heading to the OSU message board......... theozone.net Urban's first grandchild is named Troy. Touching tribute to his first natty Oh snap that's not right Yolo Edited December 4, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Then how could a non power 5 or independent get in? It would be 4 of the 5 conference champs and STILL subjective as to which is the worst power 5 conference. The resume has to determine it and PSU has a solid one, just not as good as OSU. It may be better than UW but they have 2 losses vs. UW having 1. The PSU story is a great one but I just don't see it. We will know soon enough... If they determined a non-power 5 champ or an Independent was one of the four most deserving teams (obviously not the case this year). Of course there is still going to be some subjectivity in the process but you remove a lot of it if you say only conference champs (or an Independent) are eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Correct. I think it should be based on the results on the field, not the subjective view of who the four 'best' teams might be. A team that wasn't good enough to win it's own conference isn't deserving. PSU beat OSU and won the big 10; they should get in over OSU. And what's the point of having a huge Michigan-OSU or Alabama-LSU game in late November if both are going to be put in the playoff anyway? I think college should be different than how it works with the pros. The FCS manages to have a legitimate playoff system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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