Gugny Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/touchdown-to-interception-ratio/2016/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 With outright lies? Sure. The intention of this thread was clear. Unfortunately its not true. Douche. I heard it on WGR. I didn't double check. It's not a vast right-wing conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billschinatown Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Right, the Bills won so everything must be perfect and nobody is allowed to address the elephant in the room. Hey sweetie pie! Thanks for taking an interest in my post. First: I'm so happy someone is finally talking about Tyrod. Second: I didn't say that we all need to pretend the team is perfect. You and I watch the same games. We know it's not. Third: this post was specifically posted to target the people who like Tyrod/tolerate him on the day after a win. This is very thinly veiled and didn't need a separate post to beat the horse were currently still beating in 100 other threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Is Brady really 18 to 1?!? God, I hate that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 Is Brady really 18 to 1?!? God, I hate that guy. Ridiculous isn't it? He's THIRTY NINE YEARS OLD. HGH is a wonderful thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Ridiculous isn't it? He's THIRTY NINE YEARS OLD. HGH is a wonderful thing. The guy eats nothing but organic mushrooms and avocado ice cream. Who would want to live that way anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Is Brady really 18 to 1?!? God, I hate that guy. I've tried to hate him. I just can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billschinatown Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Douche. I heard it on WGR. I didn't double check. It's not a vast right-wing conspiracy. The thing about you is, that you're smart. It comes through in the way you write. The other thing about you is, that you delight in trolling those of us that don't share the same rigid views that you do. As an aside listening to whiney Howard Simon and local stat genius Jeremy White is like having my hands nailed to the table. I'm forced to listen to John Propaganda Murphy for my bills news. I do like Sal Cappacio too though. Ridiculous isn't it? He's THIRTY NINE YEARS OLD. HGH is a wonderful thing. I'm moved past hate and moved on to acceptance. He's the greatest of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Douche. I heard it on WGR. I didn't double check. It's not a vast right-wing conspiracy. Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 What concerns me about this chart (it's sortable) is Tyrod's 11 TD passes. I respect that he's done well with not turning the ball over. I'm not bashing him. But when "protecting the ball" becomes your claim to fame, there simply has to be more to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Douche. I heard it on WGR. I didn't double check. It's not a vast right-wing conspiracy. And you believed it enough to post it without double-checking. That's an "ah, ****" on you. You want to be an idiot and believe everything you see and hear without question, that's what Facebook is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 And you believed it enough to post it without double-checking. That's an "ah, ****" on you. You want to be an idiot and believe everything you see and hear without question, that's what Facebook is for. A valid criticism. And the last time I make that mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 What concerns me about this chart (it's sortable) is Tyrod's 11 TD passes. I respect that he's done well with not turning the ball over. I'm not bashing him. But when "protecting the ball" becomes your claim to fame, there simply has to be more to it. I too would like that 11 to be higher. But he also has 5 rushing TD's. Our red zone offense is so good partly bc of his ability to run it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 27 starting QB have a 3:1 TD:Int ratio or better. 27. So, it kinda looks like not turning the ball over isn't necessarily an indicator of a solid NFL starter. It looks like it's a quality just about EVERY qb has. "Stats are for losers." - Bill Belichick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 What concerns me about this chart (it's sortable) is Tyrod's 11 TD passes. I respect that he's done well with not turning the ball over. I'm not bashing him. But when "protecting the ball" becomes your claim to fame, there simply has to be more to it. He's got 5 rushing TDs, though. I don't know if that makes him look better or worse. Interesting points of note: nine of his eleven TDs were caught by WRs. The other two by RBs. None by tight ends. And of the nine caught by WRs, seven of them were by Goodwin (3) and Hunter (4). So at least the WRs are involved in the passing game... And #2 in receiving yards on the team? Clay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I too would like that 11 to be higher. But he also has 5 rushing TD's. Our red zone offense is so good partly bc of his ability to run it in. Yep. We are 5th in RZ scoring converting 66.67% of RZ chances. The problem is, we're only 21st in RZ opportunities with 3.0 per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) 27 starting QB have a 3:1 TD:Int ratio or better. 27. So, it kinda looks like not turning the ball over isn't necessarily an indicator of a solid NFL starter. It looks like it's a quality just about EVERY qb has. if you sort the top 32 QB's by passer rating, then qualified by at least 200 pass attempts or more (eliminating most backups)......only about 10 of them have a better td/int ratio of 3.0 or higher Edited November 28, 2016 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Yep. We are 5th in RZ scoring converting 66.67% of RZ chances. The problem is, we're only 21st in RZ opportunities with 3.0 per game. I say it every week (like a broken record) but I judge Tyrod on 3 things: not turning it over, 3rd down conversions and RZ scoring. The way that the Bills offense is designed those are the areas where they ask the QB to excel. Basically, "don't make the costly mistake to beat us and when we need you to make a play, you need to make it." They don't ask him to shoulder the load for 4 quarters but on 3rd down and in the red zone he has to move the chains and put points up. We have been good in the red zone and rarely turn it over but the 3rd downs haven't been there. That last part speaks to WHY the opportunities are low. We are sitting at 18th in 3rd down percentage (39.2%). If the Bills could get to 45% they'd be sitting in the top 7. It amounts to just under 1 more conversion a game. That doesn't sound like much but a lot of games are decided within a score. Edited November 28, 2016 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/touchdown-to-interception-ratio/2016/ yeah no. 13 QBs do and two of those are Goff and Kessler (6 and 3 TDs). Edited November 28, 2016 by quinnearlysghost88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I say it every week (like a broken record) but I judge Tyrod on 3 things: not turning it over, 3rd down conversions and RZ scoring. The way that the Bills offense is designed those are the areas where they ask the QB to excel. Basically, "don't make the costly mistake to beat us and when we need you to make a play, you need to make it." They don't ask him to shoulder the load for 4 quarters but on 3rd down and in the red zone he has to move the chains and put point up. We have been good in the red zone and rarely turn it over but the 3rd downs haven't been there. That last part speaks to WHY the opportunities are low. We are sitting at 18th in 3rd down percentage (39.2%). If the Bills could get to 45% they'd be sitting in the top 7. It amounts to just under 1 more conversion a game. That doesn't sound like much but a lot of games are decided within a score. Good points. I agree we need to improve 3rd down conv %. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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