Dante Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Trump's wild claims are the ravings of a madman. First, it's an abject lie. There is no evidence that "millions" of votes were made illegally. The future president is making wild, conspiratorial claims without the slightest concern about whether those claims have any relation to the truth whatsoever. I imagine him employing this same tactic as president when it comes to matters of national security, where lives are at stake, and it gives me a very queasy feeling. Second, the Clinton camp is trying to get a recount in several states. The man who WON has now JUSTIFIED those recounts by claiming that millions of votes were illegitimate. By his own words, a national recount of every vote must be conducted. That's according to Trump himself. The guy who won. The guy who won just questioned the legitimacy of his own win. And why? Because of his pride. Even though he won, he can't stomach the idea that fewer people voted for him than Clinton. So, just to service his damned vanity, he undermined his own win and called into question the authenticity of a voting process that just resulted in him becoming president. We are in for four years of this crap, folks. And I'm not going to play along. I refuse. Trump is wrong here. He's lying. He's being a prideful, reckless idiot and he deserves to be raked over the coals for it. And those who defend him on this deserve to be criticized right along with him. Oh will you be leaving the country as well? None of the left actually have the balls or the resources to do that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 And that's no guarantee that she'll actually request a recount in all three states. If she doesn't she can keep the money and says she'll use it to "fund other Green Party candidates." I read somewhere that Wisconsin isn't sure they will have the recount done by the time the Electoral College convenesConsidering the timing if all the, 3 weeks after the election, I think that is the point.PA, WI, and MI might not finish the recount in time to certify the results, dropping Trump under 270 EV. Which would then send the election to the House, who is of course controlled by the GOP.Thus questioning the legitimacy of Trump's entire Presidency on the grounds that he achieved neither an Electoral nor Popular vote victory and was made President by Congressional Republicans. Not true. From the article I quoted above, if a state doesn't certify their votes, the total required for election will be a simple majority of the electoral votes from the states that have certified their results. As I mentioned, the original premise of that article was flawed - and it was based on the statement you made - if the requirement for 270 wasn't met by anyone then the election for President would happen by vote in the Senate, and the VP would be voted for in the House. That's not the case however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Follow that money................ Recount set to kick off as critics decry ‘fundraising, notoriety-driven fraud’ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/27/jill-steins-wisconsin-recount-kicks-off-as-critics/ Despite no evidence of fraud and a widespread belief that the entire effort will change nothing, Wisconsin election officials this week will begin a statewide recount of the presidential vote, adding yet another chapter to the fight between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. Wisconsin officials will hold a news conference Monday to discuss details of the recount, spearheaded by Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein. Ms. Stein has raised about $7 million for the process and also is pressing for recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan. Top officials with the Clinton campaign have joined the effort. Mr. Trump himself called the entire recount bid a “scam by the Green Party” to raise money and to boost Ms. Stein’s political profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 "Trump is a reptoid who drinks the blood of virgin sacrifices!" He only gets to drink the blood Tom Donahue passed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I thought Donahoe drank baby's blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Jill Stein Recount Effort Gets 12X Coverage of Her Entire Campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 She should have asked for a recount before the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 . You realize he is insane, right? So your girl who you said was going to win in an historic landslide lost to an insane person? Damn that's gotta really suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 So your girl who you said was going to win in an historic landslide lost to an insane person? Damn that's gotta really suck. Suck that Republican voters are that stupid?? You betcha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Suck that Republican voters are that stupid?? You betcha! But they were democrat voters before since those are states that voted for bho historically. So what happened cleetus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Jill Stein Recount Effort Gets 12X Coverage of Her Entire Campaign Hell, she only raised $4.8 million for her Presidential campaign. She's raised more than that for the ever-growing recount costs! (IF of course there actually will be a recount other than in Wisconsin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Suck that Republican voters are that stupid?? You betcha! but isn't it democrats in the rust belt that decided to vote for Trump that put him over the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Did she give them the money yet. Payment had to be made by 4 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 But they were democrat voters before since those are states that voted for bho historically. So what happened cleetus? Republicans gave us the crazy guy, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Back to the thread.............. Libs recount fantasy..... Stein campaign files Pennsylvania recount suitPhilly.com ^ As of Monday morning, Stein has raised $6.2 million dollars, covering the costs of recounts in both Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, and is close to her total goal of $7 million goal to cover recount costs in Michigan. Wisconsin Denies Request For Recount By Hand As Stein Threatens To SueZero Hedge ^ | According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Wisconsin Elections Commission Chairman, Mark Thomsen, who happens to be Democrat, announced earlier that the committee would follow through with Stein's recount request but denied a request that the recount be conducted by hand. Thomsen cited a 2011 recount that changed the overall vote margin by 300 votes as evidence that the current recount would overturn Trump's 22,177 vote lead in the state. Edited November 28, 2016 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Back to the thread.............. Libs recount fantasy..... Stein campaign files Pennsylvania recount suit Philly.com ^ As of Monday morning, Stein has raised $6.2 million dollars, covering the costs of recounts in both Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, and is close to her total goal of $7 million goal to cover recount costs in Michigan. Wisconsin Denies Request For Recount By Hand As Stein Threatens To Sue Zero Hedge ^ | According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Wisconsin Elections Commission Chairman, Mark Thomsen, who happens to be Democrat, announced earlier that the committee would follow through with Stein's recount request but denied a request that the recount be conducted by hand. Thomsen cited a 2011 recount that changed the overall vote margin by 300 votes as evidence that the current recount would overturn Trump's 22,177 vote lead in the state. Lost in the "Stein has no chance/Stein's crazy" is that this is by far the best press the Greens have ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I thought Donahoe drank baby's blood. Babies grow up to be virgins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) I just want to thank gatorman for showing up and making this thread dumber. We were actually beginning to draw some well reasoned, well spoken, interesting lefties and independents down here; but no. Nope. We can't have nice things. Edited November 28, 2016 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I just want to thank gatorman for showing up and making this thread dumber. We were actually beginning to draw some well reasoned, well spoken, interesting lefties and independents down here; but no. Nope. We can't have nice things. His return has made me realize how downright pleasant the past six months without him have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I just want to thank gatorman for showing up and making this thread dumber. We were actually beginning to draw some well reasoned, well spoken, interesting lefties and independents down here; but no. Nope. We can't have nice things. Gatorman is the originator of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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