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Uber in Downstate operates as a livery service (in order to comply with NYC and State law). This makes the price higher than other areas in the country for Uber.

 

 

Huh? It's often as much or less than a cab.

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Buffalo politicians remain out of touch with the rest of the world. It's sad.

Out of touch? Hardly. They are closely in touch with their donors.

the driverless vehicle is going to be amazing. the big thing would be no more long haul truck drivers. right now those guys only drive for 12 hours max then sleep but with driverless they could go straight through. shipping times become so short but you are left with a big population of workers who have no job. i honestly don't think i;ll have to teach my son how to drive.

But we'll still blame Mexicans.

 

Seriously, we are on the cusp of another workplace revolution that will displace huge numbers of workers. And you can't just shrug your shoulders about it. Large numbers of unemployed creates instability.

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I use Uber and Carmel when I am up in New York area. Outside of the city (Long Island, etc...). I am not sure it's a state thing but rather a regional restriction.

I actually used Carmel instead of Uber to get home (Rockland County) last weekend, it was about $20 cheaper.

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the platform lends itself to competition. even if taxis disappear as long as you have both uber and lyft there is incentive for them to price well. ive seen the competition level bump up a lot when the second ride share service comes to a few different cities. suddenly instead of just being better than the junk taxi service they need to be better than a real peer (more discounts offered, specials/coupons, etc...) it dilutes a little bit as they are competing for drivers though and ive noticed the quality of car/driver is a little more inconsistent which i assume is trying to make sure they have enough volume.

 

the self driving car developments are so cool when you think about the potential

As long as they really do compete. When you have just two services it's pretty easy to have a handshake deal not to cut each other's balls off. Why compete when it's more profitable to collude?

El Pegual needs to get on this and claim it's impacting the signing of FAs

Or start his own Peguber or Lyftula.
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Huh? It's often as much or less than a cab.

As in Uber is cheaper in other areas of the country than in downstate. If Uber did not have to operate as Livery in downstate, it would be even less money per ride.

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As long as they really do compete. When you have just two services it's pretty easy to have a handshake deal not to cut each other's balls off. Why compete when it's more profitable to collude?

 

sure. you could say that about any industry, with any number of players.

 

the thing here is that with a reliable app there can be as many new entries as you want really. i think we see some shifts in the business model sooner rather than later though as they introduce things like driverless cars, possibly owning their own fleet, etc.... and that potentially changes the game (especially the last one taking capital to enter) unless they stick fully crowd sourced.

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http://buffalonews.com/2016/11/14/bills-leger-douzable-need-uber-buffalo-asap/?utm_campaign=puma&utm_medium=social&utm_source=Twitter#link_time=1479161667

 

Buffalo is the only NFL city not to have Uber. Senator Funke responded saying that Uber in the Empire State is unthinkable.

 

Ridiculous in 2016.

 

It's hard not to see a political issue here, but when you allow the government to tell an industry they cannot do business in your state, THEN that's not a democracy. Sounds a lot like socialism, huh? Well, that's because it is. No wonder people keep leaving the state in van loads. sorry, this rant is really caused by my wish to see WNY and the state of NY to thrive instead of wither away.

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This is the part I don't get--there are over 13,000taxis/medallions in NYC and Uber was able to prevail against the goofy Mayor and city government, yet there are, what maybe 50 cabs in Rochester? Less than 100 in Buffalo--most owner operated....and this tiny rag-tag group is what is keeping Uber out of the rest of the state??

 

Nassau, Suffolk & Westchester carry a lot of weight too.

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No wonder people keep leaving the state in van loads.

Some of us turned the van right around after spending a number of years down south and learning that the popular sun belt states have all kinds of problems of their own.

 

But anyway, yeah. Not allowing ride sharing services is dumb.

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Buffalo doesn't have uber?? I live in Mississippi and we have uber. Unions are killing y'all.

 

Unions are a disgrace. The biggest impediment to economic progress our country faces; corruption is a distant second.

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I am able to get Uber in Westchester.

 

Legally, only if your trip begins or ends in NYC

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It's hard not to see a political issue here, but when you allow the government to tell an industry they cannot do business in your state, THEN that's not a democracy. Sounds a lot like socialism, huh? Well, that's because it is. No wonder people keep leaving the state in van loads. sorry, this rant is really caused by my wish to see WNY and the state of NY to thrive instead of wither away.

This happens all the time. Governments protect constituencies be they taxi cabs, energy companies or wine producers.

 

Unions are a disgrace. The biggest impediment to economic progress our country faces; corruption is a distant second.

No, unions protect their interests. They protect their members. Sometimes it gets out of control, but the alternative is letting your boss decide how much you make, how long you work or how much danger you have to endure. Remember the 40 hour work week, etc didn't come about because Carnegie or Rockefeller were feeling generous. Edited by PromoTheRobot
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Uber destroys the taxi business everywhere they are. I was in NF, ON for Pats weekend and my friends and I used Uber all night. So convenient and cheap compared to taxi fares. But we could see taxis cluster unused outside of bars while people climbed into Ubers. Can't help to feel bad for people just trying to earn a living.

You know the Uber drivers are just trying to make a living too, right?

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This happens all the time. Governments protect constituencies be they taxi cabs, energy companies or wine producers.

No, unions protect their interests. They protect their members. Sometimes it gets out of control, but the alternative is letting your boss decide how much you make, how long you work or how much danger you have to endure. Remember the 40 hour work week, etc didn't come about because Carnegie or Rockefeller were feeling generous.

Good thing there are labor laws now

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