keepthefaith Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 5:07 PM, LABillzFan said: Meltdown continues. Sally Kohn: Impeach Trump, Make Hillary President. What's scary though is the amount of crap the left is shoveling and the number of Americans who don't see it as crap.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 4:35 PM, FireChan said: "who is to say that what you find morally correct is, in fact, morally correct for everyone?" I didn't say that.
boyst Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 CNN yesterday evening had rounds and rounds of debate over kelly Ann Conway. Basically ignoring the Flynn incident. Fox news had wall to wall Flynn. Amazing why people watch one Chanel over another. Flocking to gossip is so basic.
Deranged Rhino Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 5:12 PM, keepthefaith said: What's scary though is the amount of crap the left is shoveling and the number of Americans who don't see it as crap. Conditioning is a hell of a thing... and has been a 60+ year program.
Chef Jim Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 5:09 PM, Tiberius said: ! How many times has the moron republicans voted on bills to repeal Obamacare? How many??? Once a week for a year. So 48 times?
FireChan Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 5:13 PM, joesixpack said: I didn't say that. Then how do "people know what is moral?"
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) On 2/15/2017 at 5:36 PM, FireChan said: Then how do "people know what is moral?" Being taught by parents, typically. I know what you're getting at. And no, god didn't implant the idea into people magically. Edited February 15, 2017 by joesixpack
IDBillzFan Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 5:50 PM, joesixpack said: Being taught by parents, typically. And how did their parents know? Before you answer that, consider that we can go on and on with "Taught by their parents" followed by "And how did their parents know?" So how did anyone first learn or come to understand what is and is not moral?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) On 2/15/2017 at 5:53 PM, LABillzFan said: And how did their parents know? Before you answer that, consider that we can go on and on with "Taught by their parents" followed by "And how did their parents know?" So how did anyone first learn or come to understand what is and is not moral? See above. It's far more likely human beings evolved a sense of right and wrong than having it implanted by some mystical being that can't bee seen, touched, measured or conversed with. Edited February 15, 2017 by joesixpack
FireChan Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 5:56 PM, joesixpack said: See above. It's far more likely human beings evolved a sense of right and wrong than having it implanted by some mystical being that can't bee seen, touched, measured or conversed with. What's your explanation for all the hate, murder, rape, beheadings etc etc etc if we've all evolved moral higher reasoning?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 5:59 PM, FireChan said: What's your explanation for all the hate, murder, rape, beheadings etc etc etc if we've all evolved moral higher reasoning? What's your explanation for all the hate murder rape beheadings after the spaghetti monster gave us all a sense of morality?
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 5:56 PM, joesixpack said: See above. It's far more likely human beings evolved a sense of right and wrong than having it implanted by some mystical being that can't bee seen, touched, measured or conversed with. You're making an argument in favor of moral relativism, FYI.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 6:04 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: You're making an argument in favor of moral relativism, FYI. Is murder universally wrong across all cultures?
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 6:05 PM, joesixpack said: Is murder universally wrong across all cultures? No.
IDBillzFan Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 5:56 PM, joesixpack said: See above. It's far more likely human beings evolved a sense of right and wrong than having it implanted by some mystical being that can't bee seen, touched, measured or conversed with. Evolved from what, exactly?
FireChan Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) On 2/15/2017 at 6:04 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: You're making an argument in favor of moral relativism, FYI. I told him. He won't listen. On 2/15/2017 at 6:00 PM, joesixpack said: What's your explanation for all the hate murder rape beheadings after the spaghetti monster gave us all a sense of morality? Oh no, this is where you define your beliefs. I'm not on trial here. Edited February 15, 2017 by FireChan
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) On 2/15/2017 at 6:14 PM, FireChan said: Oh no, this is where you define your beliefs. I'm not on trial here.My explanation is that some cultures are less evolved than others. Your turn. Edited February 15, 2017 by joesixpack
IDBillzFan Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 6:17 PM, joesixpack said: My explanation is that some cultures are less evolved than others. Your turn. Again...evolved from what, exactly?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 6:07 PM, LABillzFan said: Evolved from what, exactly? More basic, barbaric thinking?
FireChan Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/15/2017 at 6:17 PM, joesixpack said: My explanation is that some cultures are less evolved than others. Your turn. Okay, so let me see if I'm following you here. Cultures evolve at different rates, but there's a universal morality that we will eventually all reach. Let's define that as a singularity. What do you do when you've reached that point or close to it, and there's a culture that hasn't? It's not their fault, right? They just haven't evolved.
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