Chef Jim Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 That's my question! If the kids leave the public schools where will they play hockey or baseball? Who said they are leaving public schools? And if they leave public schools and attend private schools there are plenty of private schools that have sports teams. Some damn good sports teams. It sounds as if you're complaining about a program you have no idea on what it's about. Par for your course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Who said they are leaving public schools? And if they leave public schools and attend private schools there are plenty of private schools that have sports teams. Some damn good sports teams. It sounds as if you're complaining about a program you have no idea on what it's about. Par for your course. In many areas there are no other schools but the public schools and yahoots will open Trump U style schools to grab that public funding. You know how Trump U operated, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Chuck Schumer ✔@SenSchumer Today @VP Mike Pence did something no one else has ever done: cast the tie breaking vote on his own cabinet nominee. #RiggedCabinet 12:31 PM - 7 Feb 2017 That’s definitely not ridiculous or anything. First of all: It's not his cabinet. Second of all: These are the long-standing Senate rules. A far cry from "rigged" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Pence hacked the approvals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 In many areas there are no other schools but the public schools and yahoots will open Trump U style schools to grab that public funding. You know how Trump U operated, right? And vouchers allow parents to have more control over where there children go to school and that included other public schools. You do know that right? And what does how a private post secondary school operated have to do with this? Are you against a free market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 And vouchers allow parents to have more control over where there children go to school and that included other public schools. You do know that right? And what does how a private post secondary school operated have to do with this? Are you against a free market? Because they can open private schools that are just as corrupt. Hello? And lets remember, this is all political. GOP only cares about hurting teachers unions, They care nothing about the kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 I wonder what public schools would be like without a Department of Education ? Wait—I don't "wonder," I "remember." It was created when I was 25. United States Department of Education - Wikipedia Give control back to the locals.....................goal #1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Because they can open private schools that are just as corrupt. Hello? And lets remember, this is all political. GOP only cares about hurting teachers unions, They care nothing about the kids Who cares if they're corrupt as long as their football team wins right. So you don't think that parents should have a say in where their kids is educated? And yes you're right. The GOP doesn't care about children. Actually it sounds like the left forcing kids to go to schools based on geography are the ones that don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Second of all: These are the long-standing Senate rules. A far cry from "rigged" No, they're not Senate rules. They're CONSTITUTIONAL law, as stated in Article 1, Section 3, Paragraph 4. As though that matters any more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 No, they're not Senate rules. They're CONSTITUTIONAL law, as stated in Article 1, Section 3, Paragraph 4. As though that matters any more... Fair enough sir. More hysterical (in every sense) liberal reaction Ashleigh D. Johnson @ashleighdjay 3h3 hours ago now that DeVos is in, this would be the time for you to begin looking at alternative methods of education. online, homeschooling, etc. Wait, if your kid's school is bad, you should have a choice? I wish we had a Sec. of Education that believed that. Oh wait- we do now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Fair enough sir. Well...we all know Senate rules are flexible, thanks to Harry Reid. We should be more concerned when the same people decry the Constitution as "rigged." Just because they didn't get their way. More hysterical (in every sense) liberal reaction Wait, if your kid's school is bad, you should have a choice? I wish we had a Sec. of Education that believed that. Oh wait- we do now... That's hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 In many areas there are no other schools but the public schools and yahoots will open Trump U style schools to grab that public funding. You know how Trump U operated, right? Yes and possibly someone in Trump's family or others with close ties to Trump will enrich themselves in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 I wonder what public schools would be like without a Department of Education ? Wait—I don't "wonder," I "remember." It was created when I was 25. United States Department of Education - Wikipedia Give control back to the locals.....................goal #1 . And it's pretty safe to say that public schools in this country have gone to **** since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Question: So, why did the left get so much more activated against DeVos than vs Atty General Sessions, ACA-repealer Tom Price or fossil-fueler Pruitt? Answer: Because Democrats get paid by school districts, not by solar-power companies or social-justice warriors. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Question: So, why did the left get so much more activated against DeVos than vs Atty General Sessions, ACA-repealer Tom Price or fossil-fueler Pruitt? Answer: Because Democrats get paid by school districts, not by solar-power companies or social-justice warriors. . Boy! I'll say. Pandering to the Teachers Unions is big business for those who are running for office... especially the Liberals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Boy! I'll say. Pandering to the Teachers Unions is big business for those who are running for office... especially the Liberals. Look at the two GOP senators who voted against DeVos and follow the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Boy! I'll say. Pandering to the Teachers Unions is big business for those who are running for office... especially the Liberals. Those numbers are VERY low. AFT's own financial statement, for example, specifies about $50m (of its $200m budget) going towards expenses "of an ideological or political nature and not germane to work-related interests of employees." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) Those numbers are VERY low. AFT's own financial statement, for example, specifies about $50m (of its $200m budget) going towards expenses "of an ideological or political nature and not germane to work-related interests of employees." Wow...........thats amazing...............all funneled to democrats .........who funnel it back to them There’s a flaw in the arguments of DeVos critics that they never quite getting around to addressing. Valerie Strauss, writing in the Washington Post: But her critics say that anyone who would call the public school system a “dead end” — as DeVos did in 2015 — does not have sufficient interest in improving it but would rather seek to privatize it — and that is a line they don’t want to cross. Hyperbolic, I suppose, but it’s not surprising that any reform-minded, results-focused assessor of our public school system would look at the results over the past decades and conclude it’s time to show some “tough love.” In the United States, you can always find very good public schools and very bad public schools and a lot that fall somewhere in between. Criticism of the nation’s public school system as a whole shouldn’t be seen as a personal attack on your favorite teacher. In terms of what we would want as Americans – a public school system that gives every child the knowledge and skills they need to go on to succeed in life – the current system falls way short for way too many American families. Almost all of DeVos’ critics were perfectly fine with Obama’s Secretary of Education, Arne Duncan – and in a lot of cases, they were enthusiastic fans. He was, in their eyes, the very model of modern Secretary of Education. Frederick Hess noted that after being welcomed into his job with a bipartisan wave of enthusiasm in education reform, Duncan’s seven years were marked by mean-spirited partisanship; bureaucratic, Washington-centric programs; smug denigration of Common Core opponents, and an invasive army of lawyers bent on micro-managing local schools. But put aside the policy differences and too-partisan style. More importantly, in the Duncan years, our schools kept churning out the same old disappointing results. The most recent National Assessment of Educational Progress arrived in fall of 2015 and showed some backsliding from even the traditional mediocre outcomes: “The scores show 64 percent of fourth-graders and 66 percent of eighth-graders are not considered proficient in reading. In math, 60 percent of fourth-graders and 67 percent of eighth-graders are not considered proficient.” That is lousy, and that’s after seven years of the Obama-Duncan approach. It didn’t work. Think about that apocryphal quote about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results – a.k.a., insanity. {snip} Betsy DeVos isn’t a professional educator? Well, we’ve tried professional educators for a long time now. She isn’t part of the system? That’s not a bug, it’s a feature. She’s really different from all previous Education secretaries? That’s fine, because we’re looking for really different results than all previous Education secretaries. When it comes to improving schools his country tried the “nice guy” approach, and we’ve tried many secretaries who don’t ruffle feathers the way DeVos does and… we got the status quo. It’s time to try something different. Maybe she’ll generate worse results, or more of the same, and we’ll know the bull-in-a-China-shop approach to education reform doesn’t work. But it’s worth a try, because our children deserve better than the same-old-same-old, good-intentions and disappointing-results. Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner Edited February 8, 2017 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Gotta protect the teacher monopoly, no competition in the teaching ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Yes and possibly someone in Trump's family or others with close ties to Trump will enrich themselves in the process. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/brother-of-vp-biden-promotes-charters-invoking-family-name/2011/11/22/gIQAnhLFfO_blog.html?utm_term=.f869e2e4c2ef Francis W. “Frank” Biden, a younger brother of Vice President Joe Biden, is a real estate developer in Florida. He also is helping a for-profit company open charter schools in the state by employing a major asset: his last name. In February, Frank Biden urged the Palm Beach County School Board to approve a charter school proposal from the company, known as Mavericks in Education. “I give you my word of honor on my family name that this system is sustainable,” Biden told the board in the videotaped Feb. 2 special meeting. “This school will be sustained.” Afterward, the board voted to approve the Mavericks proposal, overriding a staff recommendation to deny the application because of questions about its fiscal soundness and academic quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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