\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 It was that OTHER anarchist group: http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/11/anti-trump_protest_leaders_den.html
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 It's not "anarchist" to use one's right to freedom of speech or peaceful assembly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution And there is/was a group using the main body of protesters as cover to vandalize and terrorize indiscriminately, but let's paint with wide brushes.
B-Man Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 Media still struggles with the difference between a protest and a riot Compare and contrast
/dev/null Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 Media still struggles with the difference between a protest and a riot Compare and contrast Protest: Leftists breaking windows, setting fires, overturning cars, screaming death threats, and beating up random white bystanders. But it's "mostly peaceful" Riot: Donald Trump rallies or Tea Party events. Dangerous and scary to anybody who isn't white
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 Death to the People's Front of Judea!Death to the Judean People's Front!
Azalin Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 Death to the Judean People's Front! Splitters!
/dev/null Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 Death to the Judean People's Front! Wankers
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 Media still struggles with the difference between a protest and a riot Compare and contrast BTW, this cop car has California plates. The irony is that calling all Trump protesters rioters is no different than calling all Trump supporters Klansmen.
DC Tom Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 BTW, this cop car has California plates. The irony is that calling all Trump protesters rioters is no different than calling all Trump supporters Klansmen. And when someone calls all Trump protesters rioters, like they've called all Trump supporters bigots, you'll have a point.
GG Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 BTW, this cop car has California plates. Your point being?
DC Tom Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 Anarchist group. Ironic. No, what's ironic is that they have a .org website.
snafu Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 No, what's ironic is that they have a .org website. Thems some well organized anarchists!
sodbuster Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 Anarchist group. Ironic.That's not ironic at all. Just because anarchists don't believe in authority doesn't mean they believe in chaos. They generally believe that you should be able to voluntarily join whatever group youbwant, and be able to leave whenever you want. No, what's ironic is that they have a .org website. THIS is ironic.
/dev/null Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 No, what's ironic is that they have a .org website. More ironic if the anarchists had a .gov
snafu Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 That's not ironic at all. Just because anarchists don't believe in authority doesn't mean they believe in chaos. They generally believe that you should be able to voluntarily join whatever group youbwant, and be able to leave whenever you want.THIS is ironic. Anarchists want a lack of authority -- resulting in disorder. I didn't say anything about chaos. I find it ironic that there must be someone who tries to organize a bunch of anarchists into a group and then they go out as an organized group to sow disorder. And you don't need to be an anarchist to believe that people can voluntarily join or drop their participation in a group. That's not a special anarchist trait.
sodbuster Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 Anarchists want a lack of authority -- resulting in disorder. I didn't say anything about chaos. I find it ironic that there must be someone who tries to organize a bunch of anarchists into a group and then they go out as an organized group to sow disorder. And you don't need to be an anarchist to believe that people can voluntarily join or drop their participation in a group. That's not a special anarchist trait.There can be order without coercive authority. Nobody among my friends has any authority over the others, yet somehow we manage to get together and watch football on Sunday and everybody gets sufficiently drunk and full of pizza. The idea is that if they don't like how something is done, they can go off and do it on their own. Individuals voluntarily working to a common good doesn't run counter to anarchy. Individuals being forced to contribute to the common good does.
grinreaper Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 More ironic if the anarchists had a .gov They have a .org, as in moveon.org.
snafu Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 There can be order without coercive authority. Nobody among my friends has any authority over the others, yet somehow we manage to get together and watch football on Sunday and everybody gets sufficiently drunk and full of pizza. The idea is that if they don't like how something is done, they can go off and do it on their own. Individuals voluntarily working to a common good doesn't run counter to anarchy. Individuals being forced to contribute to the common good does. Works well in small settings. Not across an entire population -- that's a utopian myth. There's no way to deal with conflict or scarcity of resources in an anarchic society. Most any clash between "classes" of people (or gender, or ethnicity or races) comes down to someone trying to protect what they've got by excluding others from attaining it. Then the other group pipes up about being held back. That's human nature and anarchy isn't going to fix it. People can debate whether authority should be proactive or not, but there will never be any successful true anarchy.
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