njbuff Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, PastaJoe said: Trump allowed the government to shutdown due to his inconsistent positions, and inability to stick to agreements made with Democrats. He’s trying to blame Democrats, when in fact he previously said it was the president who was ultimately to blame for a lack of an agreement to fund the government. https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/homenews/administration/369756-trumps-comments-blaming-obama-for-2013-government-shutdown-resurface%3famp President Trump's comments about the 2013 government shutdown during the Obama administration have resurfaced as the federal government races toward a shutdown of its own. Trump spoke to "Fox & Friends" in 2013 and was asked who would be fired during a government shutdown, as shown in a clip posted by "Morning Joe." "Well, if you say who gets fired it always has to be the top," Trump said. "I mean, problems start from the top and they have to get solved from the top and the president's the leader. And he's got to get everybody in a room and he's got to lead." He said that further down in history, "when they talk about the government shutdown, they're going to be talking about the president of the United States, who the president was at that time." "They're not going to be talking about who was the head of the House, the head the Senate, who's running things in Washington," Trump said. "So I really think the pressure is on the president," he added. It's on everyone. No innocent bystanders here. Repubicans need to grow a pair and Democrats need to stop being illegal alien loving obstructionists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Campaign Trump: "Mexico will pay for the wall!" President Trump: "I will shut down the government until America pays for the wall!" #TrumpShutdown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 7 hours ago, PastaJoe said: Campaign Trump: "Mexico will pay for the wall!" President Trump: "I will shut down the government until America pays for the wall!" #TrumpShutdown Tell us pasta, is there a bill anywhere dealing with DACA? No one prefers a CR but just what do the dems disagree with as it pertains to the CR before them? Please provide a link for: "I will shut down the government until America pays for the wall!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 If you like your DACA you can keep your DACA. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 GOP controls WH, Senate & House. Trump unnecessarily ended Dreamer protections. Trump promised The #DreamActNow. GOP let #CHIP expire. GOP tried to use CHIP as blackmail. Trump REJECTED bipartisan bill to #ProtectDREAMers. GOP now trying to blame DEMOCRATS for a #RepublicanShutDown. Make no mistake this is a #TrumpShutdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, PastaJoe said: Trump unnecessarily ended Dreamer protections. They weren't protected from ****. Keep telling yourself DACA was somehow useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, DC Tom said: They weren't protected from ****. Keep telling yourself DACA was somehow useful. It was useful. It allowed the American people to see clearly, especially the poor and minority communities who vote democrat and who are most impacted by the shut down, that the Democratic Party cares more about illegal immigrants than it does poor black and working class Americans and its military personnel. That's a good lesson for those folks to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, PastaJoe said: GOP controls WH, Senate & House. Trump unnecessarily ended Dreamer protections. Trump promised The #DreamActNow. GOP let #CHIP expire. GOP tried to use CHIP as blackmail. Trump REJECTED bipartisan bill to #ProtectDREAMers. GOP now trying to blame DEMOCRATS for a #RepublicanShutDown. Make no mistake this is a #TrumpShutdown. Every point you try to make is a lie. Your ignorance puts you in a place next to gator. Happy with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Dems had to pony up at least 10 votes in the Senate in order to keep the government running. The Rebulicans don’t “control” the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 5 Republican senators voted against the CR. Even Republicans can’t tell from day to day what Jell-O man is willing to support. He’s been MIA this weekend, leading from behind. After Trump met with senators and agreed to a deal, acting President Kelly and VP Miller whispered in his ear that his base is more important than the 80% of Americans and Congressmen who support Dreamer protection. Even some of Trump’s supporters are for it. Graham and Durbin should get a bag of cheeseburgers and a Stormy Daniels DVD, and invite Trump to a slumber party so they can keep him from being misled by his far-right advisors. A stand-alone Dreamer protection bill would easily pass in both houses with bipartisan support, but the Republicans insist on appeasing their far right members with the pedophile Hastert rule. And shame on McConnell for denying payments to the military. Democrats have twice proposed continuing payments, but he won’t allow it to be voted on, thus holding the military hostage. #TrumpShutdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 10 Dems needed to stop THEIR filibuster. Dems fail. Schumer Shutdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, PastaJoe said: 5 Republican senators voted against the CR. Even Republicans can’t tell from day to day what Jell-O man is willing to support. He’s been MIA this weekend, leading from behind. After Trump met with senators and agreed to a deal, acting President Kelly and VP Miller whispered in his ear that his base is more important than the 80% of Americans and Congressmen who support Dreamer protection. Even some of Trump’s supporters are for it. Graham and Durbin should get a bag of cheeseburgers and a Stormy Daniels DVD, and invite Trump to a slumber party so they can keep him from being misled by his far-right advisors. A stand-alone Dreamer protection bill would easily pass in both houses with bipartisan support, but the Republicans insist on appeasing their far right members with the pedophile Hastert rule. And shame on McConnell for denying payments to the military. Democrats have twice proposed continuing payments, but he won’t allow it to be voted on, thus holding the military hostage. #TrumpShutdown None of this is anything but nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Note, too, that DACA enrollees get to renew up to March 5....and get to renew during the government shutdown, since DACA doesn't get shut down. And let's compare and contrast this to Obama's similar negotiations with Congress: "I have a pen and a phone, so I'm just going to tell DHS to create a new immigration status without any associated legal rights whatsoever, and tell everyone it's the law of the land." Really, Trump's incompetent negotiation is an improvement over the past eight years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 44 minutes ago, PastaJoe said: 5 Republican senators voted against the CR. Even Republicans can’t tell from day to day what Jell-O man is willing to support. He’s been MIA this weekend, leading from behind. After Trump met with senators and agreed to a deal, acting President Kelly and VP Miller whispered in his ear that his base is more important than the 80% of Americans and Congressmen who support Dreamer protection. Even some of Trump’s supporters are for it. Graham and Durbin should get a bag of cheeseburgers and a Stormy Daniels DVD, and invite Trump to a slumber party so they can keep him from being misled by his far-right advisors. A stand-alone Dreamer protection bill would easily pass in both houses with bipartisan support, but the Republicans insist on appeasing their far right members with the pedophile Hastert rule. And shame on McConnell for denying payments to the military. Democrats have twice proposed continuing payments, but he won’t allow it to be voted on, thus holding the military hostage. #TrumpShutdown How do you manage to type all of this out sitting far enough away from your computer to accommodate the length of your nose, Pinnochio? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: How do you manage to type all of this out sitting far enough away from your computer to accommodate the length of your nose, Pinnochio? Pinnochio? He's not lying. He's parroting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Pinnochio? He's not lying. He's parroting. He's parroting lies he knows to be lies. So if I'm sticking with bad Disney references, he's a wooden bird, with a 12 foot long beak, sitting on Captain Jack Sparrow's shoulder. Edited January 22, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: He's parroting lies he knows to be lies. So if I'm sticking with bad Disney references, he's a wooden bird, with a 12 foot long beak, sitting on Captain Jack Sparrow's shoulder. Cotton had the parrot. Captain Jack Sparrow had the undead monkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 1/20/2018 at 9:25 PM, PastaJoe said: GOP controls WH, Senate & House. Trump unnecessarily ended Dreamer protections. Trump promised The #DreamActNow. GOP let #CHIP expire. GOP tried to use CHIP as blackmail. Trump REJECTED bipartisan bill to #ProtectDREAMers. GOP now trying to blame DEMOCRATS for a #RepublicanShutDown. Make no mistake this is a #TrumpShutdown. Yeah right because all this immigration crap belongs in budget negotiations and especially in continuing resolution negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Pinnochio knows best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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