North Buffalo Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 My point is, she lost. You can stare at the numbers however you want, and try to feel better because Trump didn't really win so much as she lost...but she still lost. That's it. You don't get a medal for second place here, though, y'know, I give the Dems time before they try to make that a law. Again you dont fin read... not saying it but if your Repubs go rogue with Repub laws itll flip fast like it did in Clinton's first term. The above policy items in his first post are non starters. Plently items that many folks here except the extreme left could get on board with.... but you go with his agenda and see where it goes.
TH3 Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 Worthwhile to watch the cabinet members coming together....give an idea on what is going to get pursued...
IDBillzFan Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 Again you dont fin read... not saying it but if your Repubs go rogue with Repub laws itll flip fast like it did in Clinton's first term. The above policy items in his first post are non starters. Plently items that many folks here except the extreme left could get on board with.... but you go with his agenda and see where it goes. The left is ALREADY burning schitt, and he hasn't even been sworn in yet. Do you honestly think the left will get on board with ANYTHING he does? Please. They'll kill him before they work with him. Which is too bad, because the reality is that Trump is a Democrat, and he'll probably try to do some infrastructure crap, etc. But listen to me now and believe me later...the left, as a whole, will NEVER work with him. Ever.
DC Tom Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 The left is ALREADY burning schitt, and he hasn't even been sworn in yet. Do you honestly think the left will get on board with ANYTHING he does? Please. They'll kill him before they work with him. Which is too bad, because the reality is that Trump is a Democrat, and he'll probably try to do some infrastructure crap, etc. But listen to me now and believe me later...the left, as a whole, will NEVER work with him. Ever. Even if he pushed forward the entire Democratic Party platform, they still wouldn't work with him. He could try to implement socialized medicine and completely privatize Wall Street, and the Democrats would vote against it...because if he did, the Republicans would get the credit instead of them.
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 11, 2016 Author Posted November 11, 2016 First off your an idiot about hard codifying... no such thing that has already been done. If you want to clarify the first and second ammendment to meet your right wing paranoia needs, than you would need 2/3 of states to ratify such amendments..... reread your constitution. 2nd yes since The Repubs control that much though Im not sure what the Governor situation nor the approval process of an amendment is in each state i suppose it could be close but such amendments are not fillibuster proof in the US Senate So unreasonable tin hat changes are unlikely to happen. Reasonable agenda items can, but you assume Trump would support this sort of nonsense and even Senate Republicans. HRC had more votes than Trump so the backlash imo would be swift at even the attempt which would take more than 2 years.. But go ahead and dream... On marriage I agree, but too many fees are collected and tax exemptions earned, since its about money not gonna happen, they are already dug in that pocket like a spring time dog tick. Unsure of last one? Why limit an experiment that may or may not work... Let it fall under its own weight.. Gonna happen anyway... BTW the later is an abridgement of your second idea.... sshhhh... That I could agree with as long as it includes the military.... Also would like the President to have a line item veto, term limits to 2 Senate terms and 4 House terms. ... I'll just point out that I find it "interesting" that you would call me an idiot for pointing out a Constitututional provision, then refer to the Constitutional provision itself to mark me as correct, and then to summarize by admitting your own complete ignorance of the topic. Good work there.
unbillievable Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 Even if he pushed forward the entire Democratic Party platform, they still wouldn't work with him. He could try to implement socialized medicine and completely privatize Wall Street, and the Democrats would vote against it...because if he did, the Republicans would get the credit instead of them. nailed it. Liberals already calling for obstructing any infrastructure funding bill because it was Obama's idea and they don't want Republicans to get credit.
B-Man Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 THE GOP: AMERICA’S PARTY During the run-up to this year’s election, we saw the usual nonsense about how the Republican Party may become extinct as a result of the inevitable Hillary landslide. The landslide, of course, didn’t happen, and neither party is going out of existence any time soon. But if that fate awaits either major party, it is the Democrats, not the Republicans. As I wrote after the 2014 election, the GOP has become America’s party. At the state level, Republicans now dominate. You hear a lot about the Democrats’ “thin bench.” That is no coincidence: the Democrats are losing elections pretty consistently, up and down the ticket, and you have to win to get onto the bench. In one of its 2016 election post mortems, the Washington Post takes a brief glance at reality: [The Democratic] party has also been hollowed out in state capitals across the country. Where Democrats held 29 governorships when Obama was inaugurated, they can count only 15 in the wake of Tuesday’s election. In 2017, Republicans could tie the record for controlling governorships, which is 34, set in 1922 when Warren Harding was president. (One governor is an independent, and a recount is possible in North Carolina, where the Democrat has a narrow lead.) A large majority of Americans live under Republican governors. During the Obama presidency, more than 900 Democratic state legislators were defeated. On Tuesday, Republicans picked up additional legislative chambers, and continued to make gains in state houses, with 24 states now having the “trifecta” control of both houses of the state legislature and the governor’s mansion. So in almost half of the states, Democrats don’t control anything. {snip} As of January, the GOP will control the presidency, the House, the Senate, and an overwhelming majority of state government institutions. Just about the only things the Democrats control will be the press and–far more important–the federal bureaucracy. The funny thing about the Democratic Press is that they are so self-absorbed that they don’t seem to have noticed that, across the country, their party is getting clobbered.
unbillievable Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 When your most vocal supporters (BLM, Feminists, LGBTQIAPK) all believe that their is some secret institutional conspiracy bringing them down, why would they come out and vote in elections? They ALL prefer to play the victim and become social media famous than to contribute to the establishment by voting.
TH3 Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 The left is ALREADY burning schitt, and he hasn't even been sworn in yet. Do you honestly think the left will get on board with ANYTHING he does? Please. They'll kill him before they work with him. Which is too bad, because the reality is that Trump is a Democrat, and he'll probably try to do some infrastructure crap, etc. But listen to me now and believe me later...the left, as a whole, will NEVER work with him. Ever. Listened to your prediction about the election....how did that work out for you
IDBillzFan Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 (edited) Listened to your prediction about the election....how did that work out for you Working out great. Never been so happy to be so wrong. It was the best wrong I've ever been. If my prediction were a country, it would be called Wrongtopia. And even in Wrongtopia, you nutbag leftists would still be crying, whining and burning stuff, because you precious snowflakes will never, ever be able to take defeat graciously. Oh, wait. This is probably where you tell us you used to be a Democrat, but the party left you, and now you're a Green Peace Libertarian!!!!! Edited November 11, 2016 by LABillzFan
TH3 Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 Working out great. Never been so happy to be so wrong. It was the best wrong I've ever been. If my prediction were a country, it would be called Wrongtopia. And even in Wrongtopia, you nutbag leftists would still be crying, whining and burning stuff, because you precious snowflakes will never, ever be able to take defeat graciously. Oh, wait. This is probably where you tell us you used to be a Democrat, but the party left you, and now you're a Green Peace Libertarian!!!!! Ahh..calling an error a victory...Bravo! I am not really worked up over labels like left, right, green, red...whatever - I look for policies and what results they produce.... Right now we have 5 percent unemployment, GDP growth steady and around 2 percent, household leverage has dropped dramatically, we do not have kids getting killed over in the middle east, gas and energy prices are low, inflation is low. The deficit is back to historical rates - but still not balanced. Illegal residence down during the last 8 years from 12M to 11M. Crime - although ticked up - is still at historical lows. The stock market is at an all time high. Income inequality is still awful and sectors of America have been left behind. College costs too much and health care costs and delivery stink. Those are the metrics that the DT era starts with - let's see how he does.
IDBillzFan Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 Ahh..calling an error a victory...Bravo! I am not really worked up over labels like left, right, green, red...whatever - I look for policies and what results they produce.... Right now we have 5 percent unemployment, GDP growth steady and around 2 percent, household leverage has dropped dramatically, we do not have kids getting killed over in the middle east, gas and energy prices are low, inflation is low. The deficit is back to historical rates - but still not balanced. Illegal residence down during the last 8 years from 12M to 11M. Crime - although ticked up - is still at historical lows. The stock market is at an all time high. Income inequality is still awful and sectors of America have been left behind. College costs too much and health care costs and delivery stink. Those are the metrics that the DT era starts with - let's see how he does. Gee, everything sounds so amazing, it's hard to imagine how Hillary lost. You would think the world would be BEGGING for four more years of Obama's policies! Stupid racists. Stupid misogynists. Stupid rednecks. If only you could see all the beauty that baskin sees!
boyst Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 Ahh..calling an error a victory...Bravo! I am not really worked up over labels like left, right, green, red...whatever - I look for policies and what results they produce.... Right now we have 5 percent unemployment, GDP growth steady and around 2 percent, household leverage has dropped dramatically, we do not have kids getting killed over in the middle east, gas and energy prices are low, inflation is low. The deficit is back to historical rates - but still not balanced. Illegal residence down during the last 8 years from 12M to 11M. Crime - although ticked up - is still at historical lows. The stock market is at an all time high. Income inequality is still awful and sectors of America have been left behind. College costs too much and health care costs and delivery stink. Those are the metrics that the DT era starts with - let's see how he does. as a decent speaker and of knowledge enough compared to the average here...You being the contrary opinionnof what is going on... Speaking on jobs - what is an acceptable rate of job growth in 2Q 2017? What is job rate now on same said scale? How many troops deployed to the middle East will be accepted ? How many are now? What about crime now to then?
IDBillzFan Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 as a decent speaker and of knowledge enough compared to the average here... You being the contrary opinionnof what is going on... Speaking on jobs - what is an acceptable rate of job growth in 2Q 2017? What is job rate now on same said scale? How many troops deployed to the middle East will be accepted ? How many are now? What about crime now to then? You're asking baskin for specifics? This should end well.
boyst Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 You're asking baskin for specifics? This should end well. I'm curious what he will take away from this. Curious what he sees going forward with this. Its one thing for you to be way off with the election results and own it - your off base being due to widespread expectations of a Clinton landslide and the ability for her to so easily win. But the biggest interesting point will be what he will see as successful, failure or moot.
IDBillzFan Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 I'm curious what he will take away from this. Curious what he sees going forward with this. Its one thing for you to be way off with the election results and own it - your off base being due to widespread expectations of a Clinton landslide and the ability for her to so easily win. But the biggest interesting point will be what he will see as successful, failure or moot. Let me save you the trouble. He will tell you what he took away from this is that THIS is the reason he is no longer a member of the (fill in the blank) party.
B-Man Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 Apocalypse Soon? Are Dems on verge of being unable to stop Constitutional Amendments? Convention of the States may be more likely than you think with recent Democratic state losses. (personally, I doubt it )
/dev/null Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 What proportion of the Democrats Congressional Caucus comes from the Left Coast, New England, New York/New Jersey, plus Illinois? I'm going to venture guess a quarter to a third Now tell me again how the Republicans are a fringe party of southern white males?
B-Man Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 What proportion of the Democrats Congressional Caucus comes from the Left Coast, New England, New York/New Jersey, plus Illinois? I'm going to venture guess a quarter to a third Now tell me again how the Republicans are a fringe party of southern white males? A third of all House Democrats now hail from three states (CA, NY, MA). California alone accounts for 20% of the House Democratic caucus.
Boatdrinks Posted November 14, 2016 Posted November 14, 2016 I could care less about Gay rights/marriage. My preferred solution is to get the government out of the marriage business completely. As far as abortion goes, it's not a settled issue so long as a significant portion of the population believes it to be a murder of convenience. I " couldn't care less " about gay marriage . Government doesn't belong in the marriage business. It doesn't belong in the reproductive control business either. Abortion should stay legal, as no one but the woman herself should make that decision . It doesn't matter what a " significant " portion of the population thinks about it. They can decide whether or not they wish to abort their own pregnancy if the situation arises. Should keep them sleeping easily at night. It is really a settled issue.
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