Bubba Gump Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Why isn't someone in New York buzzing these guys to fix it, instead of apologizing on twitter after. Bingo. If these !@#$s can take the time to tweet ****? Give me a break, wtf are they doing the rest of the time. Is tweeting more important than the outcome of games, or players safety? NFL is a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 so the refs say sherman couldn't hear the whistle. well you still can't hit the kicker. so it would still be a personal foul for running into the kicker. sherman blames carpenter for trying to kick...well you still can't hit the kicker. As over the top ridiculous as that call was, this isn't right. You can hit the kicker if you touch the ball first. Block a kick in the air and continue on to hit the kicker, it's fair game. Sherman reached down and touched the ball, then Carpenter kicked into him. The penalty is everything in this case. Where the refs argument falls apart is it doesn't matter if it was an accident or not. It doesn't matter if Sherman could hear the whistle or not. He jumped offsides and illegally hit the kicker, period. It should be a penalty a thousand times out of thousand without hesitation. The refs are buffoons who clearly changed the course of the game with their incompetence. There's really no argument here for anyone, the Bills were screwed and that's that. Huff and puff as we may, it's happened before and will happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 There were whistles like crazy, well AFTER THE CONTACT! NONE BEFORE! Listen for yourselves. Why was Sherman the only one to move then? I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 for the record, i didn't consider Sherman's hit on carpenter dirty, he was playing through the play, it was a personal foul but no way do i consider it dirty. He saw the kicker going through the kicking motion so he continued to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 There were whistles like crazy, well AFTER THE CONTACT! NONE BEFORE! Listen for yourselves. and you also see Douzable going after Sherman as he's walking away...for all you "Bills are kitties" people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 As over the top ridiculous as that call was, this isn't right. You can hit the kicker if you touch the ball first. Block a kick in the air and continue on to hit the kicker, it's fair game. Sherman reached down and touched the ball, then Carpenter kicked into him. The penalty is everything in this case. Where the refs argument falls apart is it doesn't matter if it was an accident or not. It doesn't matter if Sherman could hear the whistle or not. He jumped offsides and illegally hit the kicker, period. It should be a penalty a thousand times out of thousand without hesitation. The refs are buffoons who clearly changed the course of the game with their incompetence. There's really no argument here for anyone, the Bills were screwed and that's that. Huff and puff as we may, it's happened before and will happen again. i didn't see him hit the ball. i thought he missed it. but yea, are the refs going to start going...well he didn't mean to hold him so no whistle. they need to call the game tight. if carpenter tears his knee up it's a player safety issue. you cant have guys doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) and you also see Douzable going after Sherman as he's walking away...for all you "Bills are kitties" people. Can't see it anymore because the NFL/Politbureau blocked it. Edited November 8, 2016 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 If the head of officiating is live tweeting that they are wrong wouldn't it make sense that a call comes down to the officials saying you are wrong and to fix it? They have telephones, seems like an obvious thing to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Can't see it anymore because the NFL/Politbureau blocked it. Sure you can. Cick the play arrow then click the youtube icon on the lower right corner of the screen. I.E., watch the video on youtube, not at this site. Works fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Sure you can. Cick the play arrow then click the youtube icon on the lower right corner of the screen. I.E., watch the video on youtube, not at this site. Works fine. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 You can't hit a player after a whistle. We may as well have just had someone run sherman over when he was standing on the sidelines. It's the same context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 BOHICA Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 The thing I'm wondering is if any of the officials bothered to blow his whistle or not. If not, why not? There was a clear unabated rusher and that means they should blow the whistle, killing the play, before someone is seriously hurt. "We're all about safety." I thought the ref even said "unabated", wow that makes it 3 F'ups in that sequence...no whistle, no personal foul, no clock reset... Everything wrong with the officiating on this play stemmed from the lack of an early whistle. I rewatched and there is not an audible whistle until after Sherman hit Carp. You can't call a penalty on him if that was the case. The refs called an unabated penalty which was an immediate indication that they knew they should have blown the whistle early. Carp gave a good soccer dive, but Sherman didn't hit him hard. The side view showed that he clipped him across the thighs. It looked a lot worse live and from the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Everything wrong with the officiating on this play stemmed from the lack of an early whistle. I rewatched and there is not an audible whistle until after Sherman hit Carp. You can't call a penalty on him if that was the case. The refs called an unabated penalty which was an immediate indication that they knew they should have blown the whistle early. Carp gave a good soccer dive, but Sherman didn't hit him hard. The side view showed that he clipped him across the thighs. It looked a lot worse live and from the front. You can still call the penalty because Sherman did not block the kick. That is splitting heirs though. Your first point is basically correct. Calling it a flop by Carp is something that I don't agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 regardless if it was offsides or personal foul, to blow the restarting of the play clock was simply inexcusable, they LITERALLY took 3 points off the board You can still call the penalty because Sherman did not block the kick. That is splitting heirs though. Your first point is basically correct. Calling it a flop by Carp is something that I don't agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 regardless if it was offsides or personal foul, to blow the restarting of the play clock was simply inexcusable, they LITERALLY took 3 points off the board Agreed. They're pretty buffoonish in general. They mess up play clocks all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 i get it that calls get blown all the time, and we have to move past them, but dammit, this one is just stuck in my head, thought i'd feel better this morning and be in a better mood, then realized i had that game last night AND the election today....thank goodness I have SU basketball to watch tonight....so help me if LeMoyne pulls out another win, I may find a ledge Agreed. They're pretty buffoonish in general. They mess up play clocks all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 You can still call the penalty because Sherman did not block the kick. That is splitting heirs though. Your first point is basically correct. Calling it a flop by Carp is something that I don't agree with. No, you can't call that penalty because a player is allowed to hit the kicker prior to the kicker getting to the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) The league doesn't care. They just don't. Times like these I miss Ralph, he'd at least have the stones to call out the league publicly and complain like hell privately. Of course they care. They care very much the teams and stars and names that casual fans are most familiar with (and of course large TV markets) are playing in January. Seattle / Wilson / Sherman > Buffalo / Taylor / McCoy NFL dream playoffs would always include NE, Pittsburgh, Miami, Giants, Dallas, Philly, Seattle, GB, etc. Edited November 8, 2016 by KD in CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Seattle cpmplains about the calls yet in 2 of the past 3 weeks they have benefited tremendously from the officials. First the non penatly on Julio, now this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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