DDD Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 Cardale is a project QB -- he's likely serving as the scout team QB during practice and being coached on the fundamentals he lacks. I would think the Bills' ideal plan is that he won't see the field in a regular season game until 2018 at the earliest. By project QB you mean a guy that has the physical tools but will always suck when it comes to actually playing on the field. See JP Losman.
John from Riverside Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 By project QB you mean a guy that has the physical tools but will always suck when it comes to actually playing on the field. See JP Losman. This is testing my memory a bit.....but I never once watched C. Jones this offseason and thought of JP Losman...... I instantly thought C. Jones had that "it" factor to him that Losman NEVER had romo has won over 60% of his starts.... and has had 4th quarter comebacks in an obscene percentage of those. i think your evaluation of "it" might be a bit weird and perhaps unreal. If only he was not a broken human being.......Romo has been one heck of a NFL QB
K-9 Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 What's Cardale Jones up to? 249 lbs. according to reports.
Dr.Sack Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 mot many 24 year old rookie qb"s out there. he's old and likely won't ever develop.
dorquemada Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 Cardale is taking a basket weaving course at ECC Is that some sort of shot at his intelligence?
John from Riverside Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 Cardale is taking a basket weaving course at ECC You need a little bit of ying to go with your yang I think Yoga and basket weaving are good for the soul
BringBackOrton Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 Is that some sort of shot at his intelligence? He didn't even come here to play school.
Blokestradamus Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 You need a little bit of ying to go with your yang I think Yoga and basket weaving are good for the soul You're not kidding. My gran taught me to knit when I was a kid. It's as good as meditation.
mannc Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 help me understand why so many people believe this is a certainty. what i see is a guy with a ton of raw talent who's not mentally prepared. what i also see is a guy who has 'it.' dude just wins. his preseason comeback (yes, i understand the context) is a perfect example. he just finds ways to get it done. you know, the opposite of our current guy. i know there's no math to "it" and you can't coach "it" and for the things you can measure and the things you can coach he's probably lacking. but with "it" comes an extra two or three wins each year. so help me understand why he's such a long shot when he's got the one thing ("it") that might be most valuable also, i'm consistently surprised at how sharp he is any time he speaks in front of the camera. so i don't doubt his ability to absorb the mental side. Please help me understand why you think Cardale is "not mentally prepared." I'm not aware of any evidence to back up that statement. By project QB you mean a guy that has the physical tools but will always suck when it comes to actually playing on the field. See JP Losman. I must have missed JP's undefeated college career in which he quarterbacked his team to the national championship.
John from Riverside Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 Please help me understand why you think Cardale is "not mentally prepared." I'm not aware of any evidence to back up that statement. I must have missed JP's undefeated college career in which he quarterbacked his team to the national championship. I have no idea why there even comparisons between C. Jones and JP Losman Totally different qbs
Saint Doug Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 help me understand why so many people believe this is a certainty. what i see is a guy with a ton of raw talent who's not mentally prepared. I would venture to say all drafted QBs are "long shots". All drafted QBs have very similar physical traits. It's their mental game that elevates them and makes them succeed. If they can't read defenses, which is the majority, then they fail. It's unknown if Cardale will grasp the mental aspect of the game, but the odds are definitely against him doing so.
CardinalScotts Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 yes we have a practice for the guys who are active then after that they practice the inactives wraps up around 2am every day
John from Riverside Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 I would venture to say all drafted QBs are "long shots". All drafted QBs have very similar physical traits. It's their mental game that elevates them and makes them succeed. If they can't read defenses, which is the majority, then they fail. It's unknown if Cardale will grasp the mental aspect of the game, but the odds are definitely against him doing so. If I understand what you are saying correctly This is not a slam against C. Jones....you are quoting the averages themselves of successful qbs
Jkgobills Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 He has the physical size and arm strength that was worth drafting and developing. Perfect year to practice, sit in on QB film study, learn the game. Hope to not see him on the field a single time this year. If he develops into a quality QB down the line, it will be fantastic! If he never makes it, no big loss.
NoSaint Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 (edited) If I understand what you are saying correctly This is not a slam against C. Jones....you are quoting the averages themselves of successful qbs well, yea, as a jumping off point becoming a successful qb is a long shot even among the best prospects. Now you take one that is 24 and still learning the basics.... its a longshot even among longshots. none of that is meant to be an insult, but simply a reality of being a raw prospect at one of the toughest positions in sports. it would be exciting if he can steal us a few wins with his sheer athleticism if called upon some day but to think that he will catch up to the elite specimens that are already polished and then surpass them as a week in and week out player is unlikely. Edited November 4, 2016 by NoSaint
Tenhigh Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 He has the physical size and arm strength that was worth drafting and developing. Perfect year to practice, sit in on QB film study, learn the game. Hope to not see him on the field a single time this year. If he develops into a quality QB down the line, it will be fantastic! If he never makes it, no big loss. I REALLY hope he is doing that, but I don't have a lot of faith that it's working. It's not for lack of effort, he's just understudying under two guys that aren't known for their ability to read defenses. Still good to hope though.
bobobonators Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 (edited) Cardale attempted 270 pass attempts his entire college career. In comparison: Russell Wilson - 1,489 Dak Prescott - 1,169 Wentz - 612 Luck - 1,064 Cam - 280*** Cam would be an exception in this case due to raw talent. Kirk Cousins - 1128 Winston - 851 Mariotta - 1,167 Bortles - 891 Carr - 1,630 I just tried looking at some of the younger QB's around the league since today's college to NFL transition is a bit different from the one Brady had. As you can see, only Cam Newton came out of college with similar attempts as Cardale, and those two players aren't in the same league. Cardale has a long way to go to learn how to read defenses, work on technique, and just learn about the game of football. Edited November 4, 2016 by bobobonators
NoSaint Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 Cardale attempted 270 passing attempts his entire college career. In comparison: Russell Wilson - 1,489 Dak Prescott - 1,169 Wentz - 612 Luck - 1,064 Cam - 280*** Cam would be an exception in this case due to raw talent. Kirk Cousins - 1128 Winston - 851 Mariotta - 1,167 Bortles - 891 Carr - 1,630 I just tried looking at some of the younger QB's around the league since today's college to NFL transition is a bit different from the one Brady had. As you can see, only Cam Newton came out of college with similar attempts as Cardale, and those two players aren't in the same league. Cardale has a long way to go to learn how to read defenses, work on technique, and just learn about the game of football. cam had the full season starting at a JUCO after being kicked out of florida. dont know how to translate those but he was playing football.
bobobonators Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 cam had the full season starting at a JUCO after being kicked out of florida. dont know how to translate those but he was playing football. Good point, I was just going off of NCAA for these.
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