boyst Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Boggling. He was the only player I liked there. Underage af My thoughts exactly.ye. Was going to as thing
OhDozeBills Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Very interesting news. Seems like another poor move by the Browns who need to build through the draft. A 3rd rounder is a potential day one starter that can be locked up for 4+ years on low rookie salary hit. This year is over for this team, so they essentially trade a 3rd rounder for the rights to sign this guy to a huge contract. Crazy to me. The only positive I see is perhaps it will cost the Pats a Super Bowl this year, but somehow I doubt it.
Utah John Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 For this year, it looks like a lose-lose. Presumably the Pats figure they have enough LB depth to win, which is probably right, but it's taking a chance on avoiding injuries. Collins will help the Browns go from abysmal to terrible or maybe all the way to pretty bad. Whoopee. Probably not enough to screw up and lose the top draft pick. Long term, it's a disaster for the Browns and a win for the Pats. I'm shocked, shocked.
PatsFanNH Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Contract demands aside, no man should have to fall as freely as Jamie Collins is about to. Like Johnny Utah with no chute. Don't piss off the emperor or or you will be stationed on the ice world aka CLEVELAND. Lol
DrDawkinstein Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Also goes to where the Pats Value their players. They are often moving on from Defensive players at the end of their Rookie Contracts or Value contracts. Bills are re-signing these players. Maybe they should realize that as good as a player Dareus is he will NEVER live up to that extension. As good as Mario was he was NEVER going to live up to that deal. I am actually OK with the Hughes re-signing because that deal was pretty good. They move on from Chandler Jones (going to get big money) plug and play a value passrusher. Again maybe just maybe their Defensive coaches don't need top end talent to have a pretty good defense, Yes that also goes with having a top end offense as well None of this is comparable without the Bills having a HoF QB as well.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Very interesting news. Seems like another poor move by the Browns who need to build through the draft. A 3rd rounder is a potential day one starter that can be locked up for 4+ years on low rookie salary hit. This year is over for this team, so they essentially trade a 3rd rounder for the rights to sign this guy to a huge contract. Crazy to me. The only positive I see is perhaps it will cost the Pats a Super Bowl this year, but somehow I doubt it. I assume their intention is to extend him. They have the payroll to frontload this and have him be the face of their Defense for the next several years. Their top 3 cap hits are haden, thomas, and tramon williams at the end of deals. I assume they cut RG3, McCown or both, and draft someone #1 overall. They drafted several WRs so they should have some depth there. I believe they will try to extend Pryor as well. Crowell and Duke aren't a bad pair of backs. They have 5 of the first 65 picks in the draft, including the likely #1 overall pick. 3 other comp picks in rounds 4/5. And a ton of young people under cheap contracts. Next year is fill out the roster with more talent. The year after that, they probably make some FA splashes to try and make the jump. Edited October 31, 2016 by dneveu
Jauronimo Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Boggling. He was the only player I liked there. Underage af ye. Was going to as thing Freudian slip or autocorrect, that's an interesting mistake.
Pneumonic Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Even if losing Collins causes the Pats to be scored on a few more points per game it really doesn't matter in the outcome if Brady can just score at will.
Manther Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 The timing is odd considering he's what I consider to be their best defensive player and clearly they are making a SB run. They could have gotten a 3rd round comp pick if they waited until FA and let him walk. Only difference is they get one in 2017 now vs 2018. Clears less than half mill off 2016 cap.Odd timing and situation
CommonCents Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Rumors are he wanted Von Miller money FWIW.
r00tabaga Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) That's pretty crazy. Something must've went down. He was one of their best defenders! U could argue that Brady is their most important defensive piece. So he gets to face us again???? Edited October 31, 2016 by r00tabaga
nuklz2594 Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 the pats are a business. free agents and others go to the pats because they have a chance to get a ring. it's that simple
Manther Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Contract demands aside, no man should have to fall as freely as Jamie Collins is about to. Like Johnny Utah with no chute.Good simile
r00tabaga Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 The Browns have money and a ton of draft picks and good core pieces. Don't sleep on Cleveland next year! That city is cursed no more...
Fadingpain Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Hopefully Whaley catches on that the trick is acquiring draft picks, not giving them up.
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 The Browns have money and a ton of draft picks and good core pieces. Don't sleep on Cleveland next year! That city is cursed no more...no, you see, the Browns were nailed to the cross so the Indians and Cavs could live.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Hopefully Whaley catches on that the trick is acquiring draft picks, not giving them up. Seems like Bill still trades them. He just likes to get something in return when he's going to lose a player anyway.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Traded to browns for third round pick those crazy Patriots, only they can get away with this. Schefter said that Collins wanted Von Miller money and knew they weren't going to pay him that much while he was playing only half the snaps yesterday. Don't know how any player would have any loyalty to the Patriots.
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