Wayne Cubed Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 What? You've just made an excuse for EJs failing, while saying your sick of people making excuses for TT. If EJ were a good QB, he would have come in and played as such. Derek Carr was drafted to a crappy Raiders team, who has since changed coaching staffs, yet he's still performing.
fridge Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 You've just made an excuse for EJs failing, while saying your sick of people making excuses for TT. If EJ were a good QB, he would have come in and played as such. Derek Carr was drafted to a crappy Raiders team, who has since changed coaching staffs, yet he's still performing. Why don't you re-read my post...I applied Taylor's most popular excuse to EJ, pointing out how it's asinine to complain about the WRs. I even said, "for hypocrisy's sake". The point (that you missed), was that none of these excuses are exclusive to Taylor and are getting annoying. No one was making them for EJ (as they shouldn't have) and no one will make them for the next QB if they don't perform well. Some of you guys are so enamored by a scrambling QB that you forget the ultimate objective is to win. When these games are on the line and the defense knows we are in pass mode Taylor crumbles. It's not debatable at this point, it's what he does. I very much so would like to see us shift in another direction next year.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 I could see the argument on Cardale, but that's it.
mrags Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Would love it, but I've moved on. The EJ ship has sailed. We didn't develop him and honestly most of the blame goes to the selfish Marrone move to completely disregard our future in favor of a retired QB. I do find it amusing though the amount of excuses that Tyrod gets, when EJ had about as much slack as an inch worm. For pure hypocrisy's sake...in the infamous Jags game, our starting WRs were Woods, Easley and Danarius Moore. I Never saw a single person complain about the WRs (as they shouldn't have). If Taylor played with 1/10th the heart that EJ has I think maybe I'd actually feel like we could cross the 50 yard line late in games. very well said
Wayne Cubed Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Why don't you re-read my post...I applied Taylor's most popular excuse to EJ, pointing out how it's asinine to complain about the WRs. I even said, "for hypocrisy's sake". The point (that you missed), was that none of these excuses are exclusive to Taylor and are getting annoying. No one was making them for EJ (as they shouldn't have) and no one will make them for the next QB if they don't perform well. Some of you guys are so enamored by a scrambling QB that you forget the ultimate objective is to win. When these games are on the line and the defense knows we are in pass mode Taylor crumbles. It's not debatable at this point, it's what he does. I very much so would like to see us shift in another direction next year. Thanks, I did read it. You complained about the coaching staff for EJ, an excuse and a very common one among EJ fans, while saying TT gets all these excuses made for him and EJ gets/got none made for him. So apparently you can make excuses for EJ, then say he gets none, but that most Bills fans give TT excuses. Just look at this thread for proof that plenty of fans gave numerous excuses for EJ. "Some of you guys" is not me, so please don't go lumping every fan together.
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 i was just thinking now is about the time that most people forgot how bad EJ was, so let's start calling for him to be the QB. and let's see if frank reich can be coach and put marv in the front office, and have Kelly as a QB scout, and say how much we miss wade phillips, and if only Chan could be our OC! let's continue to live in the past, because we have such a glowing, storied history!
The Big Cat Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 I think playing Cardale this season would be a grave mistake. I say this with virtually no knowledge of his progression. But, if he was as unready as he was made out to be, then feeding him to the wolves could be a significant step back to whatever development he's already achieved. I think we've seen this scenario play out enough to know that QBs aren't likely to learn from getting shredded by the "bullets." They're more likely to regress.
fridge Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Thanks, I did read it. You complained about the coaching staff for EJ, an excuse and a very common one among EJ fans, while saying TT gets all these excuses made for him and EJ gets/got none made for him. So apparently you can make excuses for EJ, then say he gets none, but that most Bills fans give TT excuses. Just look at this thread for proof that plenty of fans gave numerous excuses for EJ. "Some of you guys" is not me, so please don't go lumping every fan together. I mean...did they bench him or not? Is that a complaint or a fact? Help me out here...you're reaching.
Wayne Cubed Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) I mean...did they bench him or not? Is that a complaint or a fact? Help me out here...you're reaching. They benched him because he wasn't good. That's a fact and your excuse for why EJ is where he is now. How am I reaching? Edited October 31, 2016 by Wayne Cubed
The Big Cat Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 I mean...did they bench him or not? Is that a complaint or a fact? Help me out here...you're reaching. Blaming the coaches for EJ was as preposterous then as it is now. How's that? I was adamant about it in 2014, and nothing has happened to change my mind. There was a tiny moment when a sound byte made it seem like his head was being messed with, but he's been the same QB through separate regimes. And, oh by the way, he's the exact QB that his biggest critics coming out of FSU said he'd be. Coaches my foot.
fridge Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 They benched him because he wasn't good. That's a fact and an excuse. Best coach of all-time: This man benched our second year QB with a 2-2 record in favor of a retired QB that, obviously, y'know retired again when he uhh had obviously, y'know the chance to do so.
BringBackOrton Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Best coach of all-time: This man benched our second year QB with a 2-2 record in favor of a retired QB that, obviously, y'know retired again when he uhh had obviously, y'know the chance to do so. Kyle Orton, is, has been and probably will be the best QB we've had since Bledsoe.
DC Greg Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 While I agree with you that Tyrod is not good enough, EJ is worse. They will stick with Tyrod unless he gets hurt. This. As timid and unwilling to push the ball down the field as Tyrod has been, which is hurting us badly, things are worse with EJ. The guy is a turnover waiting to happen, every time.
Reed83HOF Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 I could see the argument on Cardale, but that's it. Pretty much. I am surprised that every fan is not done with EJ yet...
mrags Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Kyle Orton, is, has been and probably will be the best QB we've had since Bledsoe.your high
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Great point about the excuses. I'm sick of the excuses for TT. Great coaches/QB's don't make excuses. The Steelers started this year w/o L. Bell and missing their 2nd WR. They then played the Pats** with Landry Jones at QB. Think Tomlin made excuses? Nope. You win the games with the guys you have. The Bills still had Justin Hunter, Robert Woods, and Clay out there, as well as Brandon Tate and Reggie Bush. Most QB's would have performed better than TT yesterday. Not saying EJ would have, but I'm sick of Rex's man-crush on TT. You're using the Steelers team that lost to the Pats* and only put up 16 points as your example? You really think there aren't Steelers fans saying they might have won if Big Ben was healthy?
Gugny Posted October 31, 2016 Author Posted October 31, 2016 You do realize that the Bills are 8th in the league in PPG right? This board has officially gone off the rails. EJ does not do one thing better than Tyrod (not one). Now, if we want to get a new QB this offseason throw some guys out for discussion. That remains a possibility (although highly unlikely IMO). Tyrod will be the QB at least through 2017. Garbage time.
fridge Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Garbage time. No one picks apart a prevent defense quite like Tyrod Taylor. All those wide-open standing still receivers fresh off their uncovered curl routes. It's Christmas for him out there.
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