Fixxxer Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 He had Happy feet today in the pocket. the protection today was very good the majority of the time. Can't wait for the coaches film to see what happened.
Nihilarian Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Tyrod will never be a good passer. He's fun and exciting. He's better than what we've had the last 10 years. He's also wildly inaccurate, has problems seeing the field and throws nobody open (as Mike Mayock says) He is a guy who can keep you afloat, and maybe if everything breaks right get you 9 or 10 wins. He'll never be the guy and never consistently take his team to the playoffs. If I'm the GM there's no way he's seeing $28.5M in cash next year. He's not worth half that amount. 17 years into the playoff drought and the Bills are still in no mans land, IMO. While I agree with most of this. After only starting 22 game starts and winning half of those he isn't all that bad. The late great Bill Walsh used to say it takes around four years of development before a rookie QB realizes his potential. This is a run first team and it was without its star RB who made that offense work so well in the wins. We knew the QB was going to be in trouble today without his star RB, without his star WR in Watkins or even his long ball catcher in Goodwin, with an injured backup RB and #2 WR, a TE who always seems to be dinged. For the love of god look at the scrubs that Tyrod was forced to throw to today. I kinda think it would be damn near impossible for any NFL QB to throw for 300 yards with the receiving corps the Bills started that game with! Now think about how pissed Brady gets when he has a new receiver out on the field who isn't always in perfect sync with him. Then, almost every Bills offensive skill player was injured at some point in the game. I'll tell you what, so many Bills fans will be crying in their beer when the Bills start a rookie QB who starts throwing INT's over and over. Geno Smith anyone? In my view, this team needs a better defense almost as badly as it needs a better QB. And 41 points to any team at home is more unacceptable to me than the play of the QB attempting to play with half an offense.
PromoTheRobot Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Defense gives up 41, can't stop em on third down, receivers can't catch or get open, secondary gets torched, special teams gives up big kickoff return, let's start a thread about how our QB can't get the job done. Edited October 31, 2016 by PromoTheRobot
Solomon Grundy Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Trade Gilmore right now for Romo. Jerry Jones will NEVER trade his illegitimate son Let's try a little word association.. Tom Brady = Ferrari Aaron Rodgers = Mercedes Russell Wilson= Honda Tyrod Taylor = Dodge Neon Most of the Bills qbs since Kelly= A pig with a saddle. Russ has to be at least a Cadillac He's the reason why Goodwin is concussed. He got Tate and Powell lit up too
Fadingpain Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Defense gives up 41, can't stop em on third down, receivers can't catch or get open, secondary gets torched, special teams gives up big kickoff return, let's start a thread about how our QB came get the job done. Tyrod certainly wasn't the only problem today, if that's what you're suggesting, but he is and will remain a big problem nonetheless.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 He had Happy feet today in the pocket. He's the antithesis of Brady's calm and poise in the pocket. Far too skittish when he often does not need to be.
Fadingpain Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Jerry Jones will NEVER trade his illegitimate son Russ has to be at least a Cadillac He got Tate and Powell lit up too No, he's much better than that. Honda is about right.
Solomon Grundy Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Start EJ. [ducks to evade buckets of hurled abuse] I'm with you Dr. Would like to see him with the full compliment of weapons just one more time.
BADOLBILZ Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Same point as last week. This is not about saying Tyrod was to blame for the defeat. Tyrod Taylor isn't going to do anything to lose you a game.... he just rarely is going to do enough to win you one. I mentioned this before but when he was surrounded by playmakers early last season he was completing passes at a prolific rate and putting a ton of points on the board. His ability to buy time combined with guys who get open fast and stay open.........and a solid D and run game........is a formula that can work. Not ideal.......but Tyrod isn't going to become a surgical passer and QB's capable of making a difference are in short supply around the NFL. Edited October 31, 2016 by #BADOL
Perry Turtle Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 I'm with you Dr. Would like to see him with the full compliment of weapons just one more time. That was the sentiment before the Jaguar game last year; then the Jaguar game happened and people had seen enough.
Maury Ballstein Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Those calling for Cardelle or EJ are just losing all sense of argument with me. No matter what you think about TT, he's better than both right now. Yea it's so hard to get 180 ypg from a qb Defense gives up 41, can't stop em on third down, receivers can't catch or get open, secondary gets torched, special teams gives up big kickoff return, let's start a thread about how our QB came get the job done.Tyrod was awesome chief. Good point Bring on the meltdowns ! Edited October 31, 2016 by Ryan L Billz
34-78-83 Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 I mentioned this before but when he was surrounded by playmakers early last season he was completing passes at a prolific rate and putting a ton of points on the board. His ability to buy time combined with guys who get open fast and stay open.........and a solid D and run game........is a formula that can work. Not ideal.......but Tyrod isn't going to become a surgical passer and QB's capable of making a difference are in short supply around the NFL. Perfectly put
BmarvB Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 He works for the style of offense we want to run. Run first, options, etc. He has a good deep ball and mobility/escapability. He is a good QB when playing with the lead, but is not a good enough QB to win in a shootout. However, he is a much better passer with Sammy on the field. He's not the kind of QB you want throwing 30-40 passes a game. In this offense, he just needs to be efficient and protect the ball, but he's thinking too much and not just letting it rip, and when he does, he lacks consistent accuracy and touch. Granted he's playing with end of the bench receivers, but still, he has to hit those passes. I still think he can get better.
Reed83HOF Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 The late great Bill Walsh used to say it takes around four years of development before a rookie QB realizes his potential. I think he said something about a QB we had once as well...I forget how that turned out... Granted he's playing with end of the bench receivers, but still, he has to hit those passes. I still think he can get better. Not trolling - is his window to show you closing at all?
BillsVet Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Should we stop looking for a franchise QB? No. But I think TT is a helluva player and plenty of teams would take him in a heartbeat. Seems like many of his good passes are dropped. And no one extends plays and makes something out of nothing more than TT. I can't recall a worse collection of receivers on the field as the Bills had today. I'm including a one footed Woods and banged up Clay because they weren't themselves today either. And the drops...ugh. I support Tyrod all the way TT was a UFA after 4 years apprenticing in Baltimore. I know Denver attempted to sign him, but he went to Buffalo to have a chance at starting. I'm not so sure he'd be in demand to start many other places save for the woeful franchises as a stop-gap option. It's 8 games into his 2nd full season of starting and his completion percentage is now beneath 60% and his yards per attempt is about 6.4. Last season at this time he was well north of a 65% completion rate and around 7.8 yards per attempt. We're getting to the point, as with every QB, when fans begin debating whether it's the QB or the scheme at fault. Something tells me it's a little of both with the QB having issues processing the speed of the game. Opposing DC's caught up to TT's tendencies and capitalized on his weaknesses.
Dragonborn10 Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 TT is the best QB since Bledsoe. He has accuracy issues and throws too high too much. He has been terrible on the deep ball this year. He protects the ball. He does throw over the middle. He does extend plays. He doesn't run enough. EJ is not even close to TT. Just look to last year. He is not jumpy in the pocket. I swear you guys just post **** and don't even watch the games. If anything he holds onto the ball too long to try and make a play downfield. They need to run him more. He gets out of bounds and gets down. He is the best chance they have to win. Draft another QB next year? Yes i'm all for that. You never know when you can get a superstar. They will need to replace EJ anyways. Give this kid more time and a healthy Sammy.
fridge Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 TT is the best QB since Bledsoe. He has accuracy issues and throws too high too much. He has been terrible on the deep ball this year. He protects the ball. He does throw over the middle. He does extend plays. He doesn't run enough. EJ is not even close to TT. Just look to last year. He is not jumpy in the pocket. I swear you guys just post **** and don't even watch the games. If anything he holds onto the ball too long to try and make a play downfield. They need to run him more. He gets out of bounds and gets down. He is the best chance they have to win. Draft another QB next year? Yes i'm all for that. You never know when you can get a superstar. They will need to replace EJ anyways. Give this kid more time and a healthy Sammy. This is all nonsense. We're 4-4. No reason to think we'd have a worse record with EJ or most team's backups playing. We beat a bunch of crap teams, and won games with opportunistic defense and a strong running game. YOU dont watch the games if you actually think Tyrod is going to magically develop into anything other than what he has shown.
Perry Turtle Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 This is all nonsense. We're 4-4. No reason to think we'd have a worse record with EJ or most team's backups playing. We beat a bunch of crap teams, and won games with opportunistic defense and a strong running game. YOU dont watch the games if you actually think Tyrod is going to magically develop into anything other than what he has shown. It could be way worse, like 6 or 7 interceptions and a couple of pick sixes worse. Just reference EJs last three starts and tell us it couldn't be worse.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Is there anyone left who thinks he can be The Guy after today's game? If so, based on what evidence? "The Guy" in the sense of a franchise QB, never have thought that. Think he can be a capable QB in a run-first offense with some good WR,
fridge Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 It could be way worse, like 6 or 7 interceptions and a couple of pick sixes worse. Just reference EJs last three starts and tell us it couldn't be worse. Such hyperbole crap. Why don't you actually look at his last three starts and come back to me with his yards, TDs, and INTs?
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