MAJBobby Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 No Brady or Rodgers and your !@#$ed theory eh? What are you talking about. The guy said that there are 2 or 3 top QBs. Then everyone is Similar. And that is a reason not to move on from Tyrod. That should be the reason to move on from Tyrod if he is not one of those top 2 or 3 guys because everyone is similar where is the loss?
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 What are you talking about. The guy said that there are 2 or 3 top QBs. Then everyone is Similar. And that is a reason not to move on from Tyrod. That should be the reason to move on from Tyrod if he is not one of those top 2 or 3 guys because everyone is similar where is the loss? It is preposterous to state that after the top 2 or 3 everyone is similar.
Blokestradamus Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 No Blokes we can't have a Modern NFL offense here in Buffalo Don't get me wrong, I actually don't hate the Roman/Lynn scheme in principle. I think it's been limited more by what the guy can/can't do from the playbook (Smith, Kaep, Tyrod) and more creative concepts would be on the cards if there was a more reliable passer at their disposal. I think Lynn could tailor to a different passer, he certainly managed to tweak the run game after Week 2 and produced decent results.
MAJBobby Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) It is preposterous to state that after the top 2 or 3 everyone is similar.I am not the one that said it Don't get me wrong, I actually don't hate the Roman/Lynn scheme in principle. I think it's been limited more by what the guy can/can't do from the playbook (Smith, Kaep, Tyrod) and more creative concepts would be on the cards if there was a more reliable passer at their disposal. I think Lynn could tailor to a different passer, he certainly managed to tweak the run game after Week 2 and produced decent results. Yeah I was kind of getting the that. Lynn seems to have taking Romans Offense and put some wrinkles that highlight Shadys stregnths and Hide Tyrods weaknesses as a Passer as much as possible Edited November 29, 2016 by MAJBobby
Blokestradamus Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Oh, come on. Tyrod can't do this to me, the jokes are too easy. @darrenrovell Tyrod Taylor's cleats this week support the Olmsted Center for blind & visually impaired (H/T @buffalobills)
Beef Jerky Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Oh, come on. Tyrod can't do this to me, the jokes are too easy. @darrenrovell Tyrod Taylor's cleats this week support the Olmsted Center for blind & visually impaired (H/T @buffalobills) Do they make noises when be he runs?
Blokestradamus Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Do they make noises when be he runs? If they do, can he loan a pair to Charles Clay?
MAJBobby Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Hey Tyrod is improving no longer the QB with the highest Bad Pass %. That belongs to the Castro Sympathizer https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-bad-pass-percentage/2016/
Nihilarian Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) @JaySkurski [bN] Blitz: Analytics website @PFF has charged #Bills QB Tyrod Taylor with 12 sacks – double any other QB in the NFL https://t.co/IuVmlj4Zh6 And of course, nobody actually reads the article and yet makes comments on everything being Taylor's fault. 1st sack, rated as a coverage sack 2nd sack, John Miller gets beat 3rd sack, Glenn gets beat 4th sack, Second quarter, 4:48 remaining, 1st and 18 at the Bills’ 34-yard line. Taylor bails out of the pocket early on this play. Although no receivers appear to be open, the pocket was clean and there was time for Taylor to let things unfold. Instead, he tucked the ball and ran. looks like another coverage sack. 5th sack, Third quarter, 8:00 remaining, third and 2 at the Bills’ 33-yard line. This looks like another coverage sack. Taylor hangs in the pocket as long as he can with his eyes down field, but eventually is forced to scramble left and goes out of bounds for a 2-yard loss. "Ryan was asked Monday if there are times Taylor bails from the pocket too soon instead of letting the play develop. “I think Tyrod’s got a great feel for the protection,” the coach said. “He can sense it. Most of your really good quarterbacks have that feel. I think he knows when to escape and when to stay in there.” Ryan also commended Taylor on how the quarterback looks down field as he drops back, instead of at the rush. “He feels it and … if he has to escape, that’s what he does,” he said. “I’m pleased with the way Tyrod handles it.” I for one am happy to know that anyone that posts here has no sway on what happens with the players. Bills fans talking about signing a different QB like Brian Hoyer seem to forget what happened with Kevin Kolb. Hoyer is an IR problem waiting to happen as is Tony Romo! This after 3 back surgeries and two broken collarbones and 36 years old. Okay sure, sign Tony Romo and even if the team gets to the playoffs only to lose as the guy is known to be a choker in the playoffs 6 times winning 2x and losing 4x. Just think the Cowboys have had the very best offensive line in football the last few years and Romo can't stray healthy behind it. Like I said earlier, the Bills are 6-5 with Tayor and 2-3 of those losses aren't on him. If the defense plays like a top 5 unit the Bills are 8-3 / 9-2 with a good shot at the playoffs. The 2015 team was good enough to be in the playoffs last year and went 8-8 because the defense went into the toilet. From someone who watched the all-22 stated he thought the Jags defense had really good pass coverage in the first half and played about as well as the Seahawks pass defense. Taylor missed only about two throws due to inaccuracy. All I know is in the first half of that Jags game it was like a jailbreak every play for Buffalo as they couldn't pass or run for most of that first half. Cheers to special teams and Shady. Like I also said, I worry more about the Bills defense stopping Carr at any point over anything else. Edited November 30, 2016 by Nihilarian
MAJBobby Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 And of course, nobody actually reads the article and yet makes comments on everything being Taylor's fault. 1st sack, rated as a coverage sack 2nd sack, John Miller gets beat 3rd sack, Glenn gets beat 4th sack, Second quarter, 4:48 remaining, 1st and 18 at the Bills 34-yard line. Taylor bails out of the pocket early on this play. Although no receivers appear to be open, the pocket was clean and there was time for Taylor to let things unfold. Instead, he tucked the ball and ran. looks like another coverage sack. 5th sack, Third quarter, 8:00 remaining, third and 2 at the Bills 33-yard line. This looks like another coverage sack. Taylor hangs in the pocket as long as he can with his eyes down field, but eventually is forced to scramble left and goes out of bounds for a 2-yard loss. "Ryan was asked Monday if there are times Taylor bails from the pocket too soon instead of letting the play develop. I think Tyrods got a great feel for the protection, the coach said. He can sense it. Most of your really good quarterbacks have that feel. I think he knows when to escape and when to stay in there. Ryan also commended Taylor on how the quarterback looks down field as he drops back, instead of at the rush. He feels it and if he has to escape, thats what he does, he said. Im pleased with the way Tyrod handles it. I for one am happy to know that anyone that posts here has no sway on what happens with the players. Bills fans talking about signing a different QB like Brian Hoyer seem to forget what happened with Kevin Kolb. Hoyer is an IR problem waiting to happen as is Tony Romo! This after 3 back surgeries and two broken collarbones and 36 years old. Okay sure, sign Tony Romo and even if the team gets to the playoffs only to lose as the guy is known to be a choker in the playoffs 6 times winning 2x and losing 4x. Just think the Cowboys have had the very best offensive line in football the last few years and Romo can't stray healthy behind it. Like I said earlier, the Bills are 6-5 with Tayor and 2-3 of those losses aren't on him. If the defense plays like a top 5 unit the Bills are 8-3 / 9-2 with a good shot at the playoffs. The 2015 team was good enough to be in the playoffs last year and went 8-8 because the defense went into the toilet. From someone who watched the all-22 stated he thought the Jags defense had really good pass coverage in the first half and played about as well as the Seahawks pass defense. Taylor missed only about two throws due to inaccuracy. All I know is in the first half of that Jags game it was like a jailbreak every play for Buffalo as they couldn't pass or run for most of that first half. Cheers to special teams and Shady. Like I also said, I worry more about the Bills defense stopping Carr at any point over anything else. I did read the article. Here let me post a important part of the article. "The analytics website Pro Football Focus assigns responsibility for sacks. It has blamed Taylor for 12 of the 30 hes taken this year. Thats double the amount of any other quarterback in the NFL. Taylor has had an average time to throw of 3.01 seconds this season, which leads the league. That speaks highly of the job being done by the line, and poorly of either Taylor for not throwing the ball sooner to open receivers or the receivers themselves for not getting open." "Additionally, PFF has charged the Bills offensive line with only 11 sacks which ranks eighth best in the league and 124 total pressures, which is 14th" I notice you conveniently left those paragraphs out of your post.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 I did read the article. Here let me post a important part of the article. "The analytics website Pro Football Focus assigns responsibility for sacks. It has blamed Taylor for 12 of the 30 hes taken this year. Thats double the amount of any other quarterback in the NFL. Taylor has had an average time to throw of 3.01 seconds this season, which leads the league. That speaks highly of the job being done by the line, and poorly of either Taylor for not throwing the ball sooner to open receivers or the receivers themselves for not getting open." "Additionally, PFF has charged the Bills offensive line with only 11 sacks which ranks eighth best in the league and 124 total pressures, which is 14th" I notice you conveniently left those paragraphs out of your post. 12+11 is 23. Who is responsible for the other 7? RB protection?
Cripple Creek Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 man why does tryod keep bailing on all of those clean, clean pockets is something i've never said. I quite literally say it several times/game.
GunnerBill Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 12+11 is 23. Who is responsible for the other 7? RB protection? Coverage sacks too possibly where the line held 3 or 4 seconds and there was still nobody open.
Cripple Creek Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 But ... is Tyrod after 24 career starts better than Kaep after his first 24 career starts? Better than Rypien's first 24? This is always a problem with player evaluation: a guy's relatively good start to a career may turn out to be a career season or two that happens on the front end rather than in the classic "prime" years. We can say Tyrod is better than Kaep because we know Kaep was exposed in his 3rd and 4th years as a starter. Hasn't Taylor been exposed in much less than 3-4 years as a starter? Did you read what the Baltimore D had to say after the game? Other opposing defenses? If you make him play QB you stand a good chance of beating him.
bobobonators Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Hasn't Taylor been exposed in much less than 3-4 years as a starter? Did you read what the Baltimore D had to say after the game? Other opposing defenses? If you make him play QB you stand a good chance of beating him. I heard what Seattle said. What LA said. What Belichick has said. And what our own coaching staff has said.
MAJBobby Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 I heard what Seattle said. What LA said. What Belichick has said. And what our own coaching staff has said. When has BB ever talked bad about an opponent go look at his statements every Bills game lol
bobobonators Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 When has BB ever talked bad about an opponent go look at his statements every Bills game lol It was an interview with a Boston media source Apparently something he did weekly up there not sure if he still does this season.
Cripple Creek Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Is it that far fetched that he didnt completely trust his protection after working with Wood this whole time? That is possible. Trust is biult Only if he's thinking too much.
Cripple Creek Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 'Cos he bails clean pockets into rushes. What confuses me is I don't think he looks that bad when he stands in there and shows patience. If you could stop the early bailing I suspect you'd get more consistent play. Should make him wear Bledsoe's shoes.
papazoid Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 our arena league WR's can't run themselves open. TT is risk adverse to throwing interceptions, hence he doesn't "get the ball downfield more" the right side of O-line is weak. injuries to top 3 wr's, top 2 rb's, center, RT aren't helping.
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