PromoTheRobot Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Tyrod certainly wasn't the only problem today, if that's what you're suggesting, but he is and will remain a big problem nonetheless. He was the fourth or fifth problem, which means if you fix that problem, you still have 3-4 problems to solve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Such hyperbole crap. Why don't you actually look at his last three starts and come back to me with his yards, TDs, and INTs? We're talking about the Texans, Jaguars and Bengals, right? Why don't you look at the game-killing turnovers and get back to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 With your wait and see approach... will you ever see a game that qualifies for judgement? No lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) We're talking about the Texans, Jaguars and Bengals, right? Why don't you look at the game-killing turnovers and get back to us. When we lose in Seattle on Monday and Tyrod loses three straight, there will be an excuse, right? It's different this time, because reasons! There is little to no drop off. You're projecting. Fans hate Manuel because of where he was drafted. I wish Tyrod showed one ounce of EJ's want in the second half of that Jaguars game. Edited October 31, 2016 by fridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 He has 2 interceptions in 8 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 When we lose in Seattle on Monday and Tyrod loses three straight, there will be an excuse, right? It's different this time, because reasons! There is little to no drop off. You're projecting. Fans hate Manuel because of where he was drafted. I wish Tyrod showed one ounce of EJ's want in the second half of that Jaguars game. lets wait till they actually lose...k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 You know what gets me? People excoriated losman and Manuel on a smaller body of work than Tyrod has had. Wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 You know what gets me? People excoriated losman and Manuel on a smaller body of work than Tyrod has had. Wonder why? Racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 That's exactly the issue. We got drawn into a shootout and we were firing blanks. Obviously, the supporting cast doesn't help but I frankly don't care from an evaluation standpoint. If he makes every throw and they're all dropped or contested because the WR can't get open, fine. That's not the case, he's still missing routine throws. Was waiting for someone to say this. Its not like tyrod is hitting bums in between the numbers... or in perfect stride. We have high balls low balls flutter balls which even if the receiver could catch would do nothing Why are there so few plays for the BIlls that involve a QUICK pass? I see TT standing like a statue surveying the field too often. I almost never see a designed play to a quick slant or pass to the outside. Those plays are becoming the bread and butter of several teams these days. Are the Bills just not adapting to the times? Does TT have slow eyes? Is he too scared to throw the quick pass because it's a timing throw to a spot rather than leading a receiver? Silly guy. That would require tyrod to observe the black hole that is the middle of the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Was waiting for someone to say this. Its not like tyrod is hitting bums in between the numbers... or in perfect stride. We have high balls low balls flutter balls which even if the receiver could catch would do nothing Silly guy. That would require tyrod to observe the black hole that is the middle of the field nobody is gonna get pushed off their stance at this point im trying to tell you that while it isnt the best we could hope for it could be much worse so....believe what you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) When we lose in Seattle on Monday and Tyrod loses three straight, there will be an excuse, right? It's different this time, because reasons! There is little to no drop off. You're projecting. Fans hate Manuel because of where he was drafted. I wish Tyrod showed one ounce of EJ's want in the second half of that Jaguars game. Here are some stats from those three Manual starts. 5 interceptions. Two pick sixes. One fumble returned for a touchdown. He gifted the Texans 7 points; the Bills lost by six. He gifted the Jags 14 points, the Bills lost by 3. The Texans loss cost the Bills a 10-6 record. The Jags loss cost the Bills a 9-7 record. EJ cost the Bills 2 wins in his last 3 starts. That why I don't want him to start. He doesn't protect the ball. I don't care where he was drafted. Are those "reasons" you understand? Edited October 31, 2016 by Perry Turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 He has 2 interceptions in 8 games A big positive. And he makes plays with his feet when pass plays break down and even just the threat of him keeping the ball and running with it helps open up the running game. He is inadequate as a small window pocket passer but give him playmakers in the passing game and there will be great synergy, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Here are some stats from those three starts. 5 interceptions. Two pick sixes. One fumble returned for a touchdown. He gifted the Texans 7 points; the Bills lost by six. He gifted the Jags 14 points, the Bills lost by 3. The Texans loss cost the Bills a 10-6 record. The Jags loss cost the Bills a 9-7 record. EJ cost the Bills 2 wins in his last 3 starts. That why I don't want him to start. He doesn't protect the ball. I don't care where he was drafted. Are those "reasons" you understand? Are those reason you understand? Has tyrod come from behind 4+ points to win yet? Just wondering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I've never seen a QB get so many excuses in my life. actually i am blaming the rec's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 You know what gets me? People excoriated losman and Manuel on a smaller body of work than Tyrod has had. Wonder why? Losman couldn't do anything but throw the deep ball. He looked lost against the Pats in the worst way. EJ couldn't throw a deep pass and couldn't improvise well at all. If he did, it was usually an INT. EJ was overall better, but only with safe and simple gameplans. I wanted both to succeed, like with TT. TT is better than both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Losman couldn't do anything but throw the deep ball. He looked lost against the Pats in the worst way. EJ couldn't throw a deep pass and couldn't improvise well at all. If he did, it was usually an INT. EJ was overall better, but only with safe and simple gameplans. I wanted both to succeed, like with TT. TT is better than both. IF he is it ain't by much. He's atrocious when forced to be a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Has tyrod come from behind 4+ points to win yet? Just wondering When he wins, he hasn't had to. But yes, there's a problem with this tempo late in games when trailing. Something is off there. STILL, better than EJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 the protection today was very good the majority of the time. Can't wait for the coaches film to see what happened. It sure was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Has tyrod come from behind 4+ points to win yet? Just wondering Has Tyrod won a game on a Monday that fell on an even number day? Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Here are some stats from those three Manual starts. 5 interceptions. Two pick sixes. One fumble returned for a touchdown. He gifted the Texans 7 points; the Bills lost by six. He gifted the Jags 14 points, the Bills lost by 3. The Texans loss cost the Bills a 10-6 record. The Jags loss cost the Bills a 9-7 record. EJ cost the Bills 2 wins in his last 3 starts. That why I don't want him to start. He doesn't protect the ball. I don't care where he was drafted. Are those "reasons" you understand? Exactly. Total POS of a QB (nice guy though). I'm perfectly fine with TT at QB through the rest of the season, though it looks like it will take a miracle for him to see all that jack next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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