eball Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 I'm glad he said it. Hearing that 76% of people polled didn't think Glenn's death was Daryl's fault made me laugh. Did 76% of people polled not watch the episode???
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 This ^^^^^^^ Who the hell has Judith btw? Oh Key-riste, now we got another Grimes kid who can't be accounted for half the time?!?! The priest, whatever-the-!@#$ his name is. Back in Alexandria, where Father Unmemorable is in charge of defending all the other characters no one gives a **** about.
Doc Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 Did 76% of people polled not watch the episode??? No. They're just people who would give Daryl a pass for anything.
dpberr Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 This one is up there - easily best WD ESP ever (not much competition though) Dexter season four (I think) episode with trinity killer/dexter/Rita takes the cake for me though easily, TS-19 is still my favorite, probably because it appeals to my enjoyment of science fiction. It delivered the kick to the nuts and hopelessness without the gore. Don't forget that "New" Jack Bauer and Tara are out in the world somewhere in addition to Morgan and Carol.
Acantha Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 Did 76% of people polled not watch the episode??? I think you can make a case to say that he would have expected to get himself killed, and was willing to do that to stop Negan from harassing what's her name (seriously, so many of these characters name's are so forgettable). He wouldn't have known Glenn would get the punishment, as it seems the only reason that happened was because Negan has a hard-on for Daryl just like everyone else.
4merper4mer Posted October 24, 2016 Author Posted October 24, 2016 Morgan is starting to piss me off. Won't be sad to see him go. I don't see it. I think he is currently the best character on the show. It's because he's been through more than the others from an evolution point of view. Lost his wife....kept it together....helped Rick....lost his son....went nuts....found a guy that helped him....developed a philosophy and tried to stick to it. He's not haphazard and off base with his philosophy and doesn't do crazy things like Gabe, Spencer or even Daryl. Carol has also evolved but come from a different place and gone to a different place. Neither's outlook is really viable but they are thoughtful about it and trying...at least Morgan is trying to get Carol to try "you can come back from this". I think the fact that he went completely bonkers at one point and came back gives him a unique outlook. With the possible exception of Rick at the prison for a while, nobody else has totally lost it and made through to the other end. I love his character. One of my favorites ever on any show andI think Lenny James just absolutely kills it.
shrader Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 I'm glad he said it. Hearing that 76% of people polled didn't think Glenn's death was Daryl's fault made me laugh. And that's exactly why he said it, to piss those people off. I hope they have him on more, the heel act could be fun.
Buftex Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 Carol is the only one I really like, everyone else can be chomped by the walkers, the more the better. She is the only character that really has grown, in a believable way.
eball Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 I think you can make a case to say that he would have expected to get himself killed, and was willing to do that to stop Negan from harassing what's her name (seriously, so many of these characters name's are so forgettable). He wouldn't have known Glenn would get the punishment, as it seems the only reason that happened was because Negan has a hard-on for Daryl just like everyone else. Doesn't matter -- the truth is if Daryl doesn't act out, Glen doesn't get his head smashed. They had to write a storyline that took Daryl away, because there'd be no telling how the group -- and Maggie in particular -- would have treated him. Yes, they know he was only sticking up for all of them, but it was a no-win situation and what he did was stupid. By the way, is there a more haunting image than Glen stammering with his eye poking out? Gives me the creeps just thinking about it again.
Doc Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 And that's exactly why he said it, to piss those people off. I hope they have him on more, the heel act could be fun. I don't think that was his primary motivation, he's just telling it like it is. If Daryl hadn't charged him, he wouldn't have killed Glenn. He warned them about doing it (again). And in his mind, Negan isn't a bad guy and he has to think that way to play the character properly.
Azalin Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 By the way, is there a more haunting image than Glen stammering with his eye poking out? Gives me the creeps just thinking about it again. That was by far the most difficult and disturbing thing to watch that I've ever seen on television.
John from Riverside Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 It was Glenn's time....and on this show when its your time its your time. Negan is all about domination.....it will be interesting to see how Rick acts this next week given what has happened..... Is he truly broken? or Was he just trying to keep more bad from happening till he could get to a position of strength
Bullpen Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 The priest, whatever-the-!@#$ his name is. Back in Alexandria, where Father Unmemorable is in charge of defending all the other characters no one gives a **** about. Tom, I'm using this exact quote tonight, when my wife mentions not seeing the little Grimes Scamp! Jeffery Dean Morgan for my money is a great choice for this character, but while watching it last night and thinking back to the books, it suddenly dawned on me, "Neegan certainly does like to hear himself pontificate!" (Not unlike a certain leader of a certain group we speak of quite often on TBD). Neegan always with the chit-chat! I may start using Neegan and Rex interchangeably. Overall, great episode, but last night came thisclose to becoming tortureporn with giving Carl the old Luke Skywalker treatment. We get it Neegan is a bad man who does bad things to other arguably bad people. It's established now. Let's not turn this into "Neegan's Catch-22 of the Week!" Did anyone else notice it seemed like Mags was almost speaking in tongues a couple times after Neegan and crew left them? I could understand a couple lines of her dialogue, but other times, either her real accent crept in or she was acting so "distraught" that you couldn't make out what she was saying. Last thing, I promise... Hardwick!!!! Fer Christ's sake can you stop the with the overly dramatic, melancholic intro to talking dead every time a character dies? You're not reporting REAL news for a network. You're hosting a forum. My wife even said, "why's he acting like a therapist for the viewers? We know he's going to be yukking it up in about five minutes when he brings out the first guests!"
4merper4mer Posted October 24, 2016 Author Posted October 24, 2016 It was Glenn's time....and on this show when its your time its your time. Negan is all about domination.....it will be interesting to see how Rick acts this next week given what has happened..... Is he truly broken? or Was he just trying to keep more bad from happening till he could get to a position of strength IMO he is truly broken but temporarily. A few shows or more. There will some episodes that have no Rick or barely any. Next week looks like mostly Morgan/Carol. Tara is out there somewhere. I could see them doing some goings on at Alexandria before the main group returns....Maggie and Sasha will get some time.....Daryl with the Saviors. A lot of stuff can happen without having to focus too much on Rick.
Dante Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Glad Glenn is gone. He was boring. It was kind of bs that he didn't get munched by the fence when under all those zombies last season. To me he started out a interesting character. They gradually turned him into a badass like everyone else on the show. To many of the same type and keeping him a semi helpless nerd would have kept the cast a little more interesting. Sorry to see Abraham go. Edited October 24, 2016 by Dante
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 Overall, great episode, but last night came thisclose to becoming tortureporn with giving Carl the old Luke Skywalker treatment. We get it Neegan is a bad man who does bad things to other arguably bad people. It's established now. Let's not turn this into "Neegan's Catch-22 of the Week!" The point wasn't "Negan is a bad man." The point was "What does it take to break Rick Grimes?" Can understand why you'd miss it, though. That point is seriously undermined by "broken Rick Grimes" and "badass Rick Grimes" basically indistinguishable, given that Andrew Lincoln's interpretation of the character seems to be limited to "greasy, sweaty, disheveled, bug-eyed Rick Grimes."
4merper4mer Posted October 24, 2016 Author Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Glad Glenn is gone. He was boring. It was kind of bs that he didn't get munched by the fence when under all those zombies last season. To me he started out a interesting character. They gradually turned him into a badass like everyone else on the show. To many of the same type and keeping him a semi helpless nerd would have kept the cast a little more interesting. Sorry to see Abraham go. Wow. I definitely liked Glen. He grew up a bit on the show but he probably had the most normal life of anyone and he did it by remaining himself. Well, maybe not all that normal.....no way does he get anywhere near Maggie's bed unless a zombie apocalypse hits, so good for him. Agreed on the dumpster. That was dumb. Edited October 24, 2016 by 4merper4mer
shrader Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 I don't think that was his primary motivation, he's just telling it like it is. If Daryl hadn't charged him, he wouldn't have killed Glenn. He warned them about doing it (again). And in his mind, Negan isn't a bad guy and he has to think that way to play the character properly. I don't think he says it if they hadn't mentioned the poll earlier. He was trolling those people.
BADOLBILZ Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 Gives me the creeps just thinking about it again. Yes it does. That was atrocious by television standards.
dpberr Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 They had to go long on Negan violence because the Governor character and storyline was underwhelming. Otherwise it's Rick and the Battlin' Milita knocking off the villain of the week.
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