Rico Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 What could Rick actually have done different here......am I missing something? His plan was another disaster that went terribly wrong. First the excellent double-cross, then I believe he wanted Maggie's crew to hang back until she decided to take matters into her own hands.
John from Riverside Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 His plan was another disaster that went terribly wrong. First the excellent double-cross, then I believe he wanted Maggie's crew to hang back until she decided to take matters into her own hands. Is it really so hard to believe that the garbage pail group would not want to alliance with the saviors? The philosophies of these two groups do not seem to be anything alike.....and the weird tall lady would seem to have to give up so much power in order this all to work. If the garbage pail group had ANY smarts....they could have double crossed the double cross and ended Negan tonight....but that would take away from more walking dead episodes.
That's No Moon Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Also, if Dwight had any ball sack whatsoever he shoots Negan during the confusion. I mean seriously, you're standing three feet from the guy essentially all the time. Shots break out, oops, I missed.
Talley56 Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Epic scene with Shiva (the tiger) jumping in just before Carl's about to get his brains bashed in. For tonight, Sasha was the baddest ass.I'll miss her. Good actress. Agreed, she was great.
inkman Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) The whole kingdom thing should be so cheesey, but it works. The three main players there are such damn good actors, they make it great. For one night anyway, the slow boring season is forgotten. 14 episodes sandwiched between two great ones. All out war starts and only one main character dies! Come on. Is there anyone left we care about anyway? Carol, maybe. Maggie I guess. Everyone else has turned....boring. I like Neagen but they try and force so much over the top behavior. Edited April 3, 2017 by inkman
USMCBillsFan Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 All out war starts and only one main character dies! Come on. Is there anyone left we care about anyway? Carol, maybe. Maggie I guess. Everyone else has turned....boring. I like Neagen but they try and force so much over the top behavior. In regards to Negan, that's straight from the comics. His character is very over the top and JDM plays it perfectly. I loved the finale, but it was very predictable.... However, it was good to see Carl step up and take the first shot. Loved that part! And of course the Tiger was epic. I was a little surprised to see Michonne get her ass whipped so badly... We still see Dwight's supposedly on Ricks side with the chess piece too.
shrader Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 I'm just waiting for the inevitable complaints about how Shiva somehow knows who is a Savior and who isn't.
ricojes Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) I'm just waiting for the inevitable complaints about how Shiva somehow knows who is a Savior and who isn't. How does anyone really know each other? You have Ocean Side that people from the Kingdom and Hilltop have never met, they could have shot them and vise versa. I would assume most of the Kingdom doesn't know Hilltop and neither have met all of Rick's crew. I doubt the Saviors and gabage pale's know each other that well. So, you can't nitpick about those things. But it would have been pretty cool if Shiva bit Rick's head....oooops, my bad. Edited April 3, 2017 by ricojes
shrader Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 How does anyone really know each other? You have Ocean Side that people from the Kingdom and Hilltop have never met, they could have shot them and vise versa. I would assume most of the Kingdom doesn't know Hilltop and neither have met all of Rick's crew. I doubt the Saviors and gabage pale's know each other that well. So, you can't nitpick about those things. But it would have been pretty cool if Shiva bit Rick's head....oooops, my bad. Well at least the kingdomers are easy to pick out of a crowd. If anything, I'd imagine it's the Saviors in the middle with the three groups converging around them. The dumpster people screw with that one though, since they were scattered around Alexandria.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Is it really so hard to believe that the garbage pail group would not want to alliance with the saviors? The philosophies of these two groups do not seem to be anything alike.....and the weird tall lady would seem to have to give up so much power in order this all to work. If the garbage pail group had ANY smarts....they could have double crossed the double cross and ended Negan tonight....but that would take away from more walking dead episodes. This leads to Jadis getting what she wanted from Rick when it was over. Getting f'd. We take, we don't do. Well they took a lot of casualties that's for certain. Dr Smartypants won't be welcomed back in Alexandria. Was Sasha pleasing herself in the coffin on the way to Alexandria? not counting commercials - 50 minutes of boring for 10 minutes of action. Maggy is now the leader of Hilltop.
dpberr Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 To borrow a quote from the show - "I'm shocked as ****" Simon made it out of Season 7 alive. Thought for sure he was going to be eaten by a tiger or the turned Sasha. I'll call my shot now - Jadis dies by garbage truck next season.
shrader Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Dr Smartypants won't be welcomed back in Alexandria. Given his interaction with Negan at the end, I completely expect him to team up with Dwight to take down the Sanctuary from the inside. After what he saw with the doctor and now that interaction, Eugene has to know what he's dealing with. That and he absolutely has to team up with Dwight given that they've been intimate.
ricojes Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Given his interaction with Negan at the end, I completely expect him to team up with Dwight to take down the Sanctuary from the inside. After what he saw with the doctor and now that interaction, Eugene has to know what he's dealing with. That and he absolutely has to team up with Dwight given that they've been intimate. That's a good possibility. He "is Negan" because it provides a sense of security, he's basically hanging around with the biggest kid in the class. Now that there's a battle and it appears as though the odds a pretty even, he may just flip. Of course, Rick did give the order to blow him up, so he has concerns on both sides.
shrader Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 That's a good possibility. He "is Negan" because it provides a sense of security, he's basically hanging around with the biggest kid in the class. Now that there's a battle and it appears as though the odds a pretty even, he may just flip. Of course, Rick did give the order to blow him up, so he has concerns on both sides. They came around pretty quickly on Dwight's intentions, so if they can trust him, they can definitely trust Eugene again after he sabotages something.
Azalin Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Epic scene with Shiva (the tiger) jumping in just before Carl's about to get his brains bashed in. Yep, I don't think that scene could have played out in a more entertaining fashion. I was thinking maybe Carl would be saved by a sniper or something at the last second, then all of a sudden Shiva bursts into the scene. Epic describes it perfectly!
USMCBillsFan Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 The only thing I missed was what happened to Gregory? I don't remember him actually leaving and all of a sudden he's gone and Maggie is leading the Hilltop? Where did I miss that?
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Given his interaction with Negan at the end, I completely expect him to team up with Dwight to take down the Sanctuary from the inside. After what he saw with the doctor and now that interaction, Eugene has to know what he's dealing with. That and he absolutely has to team up with Dwight given that they've been intimate. Dr Smartypants will take the path of least resistance aka the Cowards way out. I tried to think he was playing a smart mans game once and he proved me wrong. Once bitten Dwight wants Negan dead, Eugene doesn't (necessarily) IMO.
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Ima go with Stoopid describes it puurrrfectly. The Stoopid digital cat floats in and kills the ones we never would've remembered anyways. #daring!
DC Tom Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Dr Smartypants will take the path of least resistance aka the Cowards way out. I tried to think he was playing a smart mans game once and he proved me wrong. Once bitten Dwight wants Negan dead, Eugene doesn't (necessarily) IMO. Eugene wants to feel safe. I don't think he cares either way about Negan, as long as he feels safe. Right now, after Negan questioning Sasha's death, he's probably not feeling very safe.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 The only thing I missed was what happened to Gregory? I don't remember him actually leaving and all of a sudden he's gone and Maggie is leading the Hilltop? Where did I miss that? He went to Sanctuary to talk to Negan about Hilltop issues. meaning imo that he wanted to say Maggy was trying to take over. Well, I think we all saw what Negan saw ... there's that pregnant &%+$# Eugene wants to feel safe. I don't think he cares either way about Negan, as long as he feels safe. Right now, after Negan questioning Sasha's death, he's probably not feeling very safe. That is true. Negan has no proof Sasha she died. It may very well believe that she ran out of air. The only way to find out is to test that theory. Coffin, tarp, two or more hour drive. However like Dwight, they may side with them "the enemy of my enemy" but you'll never see Dwight living in Alexandria or Hilltop.
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