MAJBobby Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) So just to be clear: Josh Brown was investigated by the King County Sheriff's Department for domestic violence? They have him confessing to domestic violence? The prosecuting attorney declined to press charges? And the Giants are getting **** for not punishing him? Hey, people...how about we stop expecting the NFL to act as a law enforcement body? When your Commish says it will not be tolerated but then it is not dealt with that is not an issue? OOOOO In a month that they push PINK to get the womens money. hypocritical NO? Please be sure that you compare the proper timelines. NFL & Ravens were going to do nothing to Rice when news broke that he had an incident with his fiance at the casino. Then, they were going to suspend him for 2 days once video leaked out of him dragging her out from the elevator. It was only after the punch video was unearthed that he got blackballed. The entire process took months. But, yeah Brown is being treated better because he's white. The Sports Zone™ @TheSportsZone__ 17h17 hours ago Giants owner admits to prior knowledge of Brown's domestic violence: New York Giants owner John Mara admitted... @MichaelDavSmith: Giants owner John Mara admits he knew NFL Security had to intervene to (cont) http://tl.gd/nn1hkl And now players are starting to talk about the different treatment, so you don't think that is a Problem? Edited October 21, 2016 by MAJBobby
GG Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) The Sports Zone™ @TheSportsZone__ 17h17 hours ago Giants owner admits to prior knowledge of Brown's domestic violence: New York Giants owner John Mara admitted... And now players are starting to talk about the different treatment, so you don't think that is a Problem? Again, how different is that from Ravens KNOWING that an incident occurred between Rice & fiance in the casino, and them not doing anything UNTIL the videos came out? Read what I wrote. Of course it will continue to be a problem as long as people are perfectly ok in perpetuating false narratives. Edited October 21, 2016 by GG
thebandit27 Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 So just to be clear: Josh Brown was investigated by the King County Sheriff's Department for domestic violence? They have him confessing to domestic violence? The prosecuting attorney declined to press charges? And the Giants are getting **** for not punishing him? Hey, people...how about we stop expecting the NFL to act as a law enforcement body? For me, the issue is that the NFL handed down a lesser suspension for his DV arrest than the standard that they themselves set based upon the premise that it was an isolated incident and they couldn't verify that other incidents took place. The suspension, however, happened after the NFL themselves had to intervene in a domestic disturbance at the pro bowl subsequent to his arrest. Those two facts alone point to gross negligence on the NFL's behalf.
MAJBobby Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 Again, how different is that from Ravens KNOWING that an incident occurred between Rice & fiance in the casino, and them not doing anything UNTIL the videos came out? Read what I wrote. Of course it will continue to be a problem as long as people are perfectly ok in perpetuating false narratives. It came out Ravens did something. It Came out Giants did nothing. See the different..... But hey I get it I am sure you think it is OK I am done with this conversation Again, how different is that from Ravens KNOWING that an incident occurred between Rice & fiance in the casino, and them not doing anything UNTIL the videos came out? Read what I wrote. Of course it will continue to be a problem as long as people are perfectly ok in perpetuating false narratives. HERE. NFL Changed Policy because of blowback from Rice. Here it is.... The policy was toughened after the Ray Rice scandal in 2014. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell wrote the following in a letter to team owners in August of that year: "Effective immediately, violations of the Personal Conduct Policy regarding assault, battery, domestic violence or sexual assault that involve physical force, will be subject to a suspension without pay of six games for a first offense, with consideration given to mitigating factors as well as a longer suspension when circumstances warrant." Now NFL gets involved in an incident that included violence at the Probowl. Did Josh Brown get 6 games without pay. But keep your head in the sand
GG Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 It came out Ravens did something. It Came out Giants did nothing. See the different..... But hey I get it I am sure you think it is OK I am done with this conversation HERE. NFL Changed Policy because of blowback from Rice. Here it is.... The policy was toughened after the Ray Rice scandal in 2014. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell wrote the following in a letter to team owners in August of that year: "Effective immediately, violations of the Personal Conduct Policy regarding assault, battery, domestic violence or sexual assault that involve physical force, will be subject to a suspension without pay of six games for a first offense, with consideration given to mitigating factors as well as a longer suspension when circumstances warrant." Now NFL gets involved in an incident that included violence at the Probowl. Did Josh Brown get 6 games without pay. But keep your head in the sand So in your mind it's an equivalent situation despite the fact that the Rice process took months to sort itself out, (during which time the team & NFL were supportive of Rice) but you expect the Giants to cut him within 24 hours, without all facts being analyzed. And you're totally fine equating the two situations.
MAJBobby Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 So in your mind it's an equivalent situation despite the fact that the Rice process took months to sort itself out, (during which time the team & NFL were supportive of Rice) but you expect the Giants to cut him within 24 hours, without all facts being analyzed. And you're totally fine equating the two situations. MARA Admitted he knew about it, but again done, with the conversation
GG Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 MARA Admitted he knew about it, but again done, with the conversation So did Bisciotti and he was going to do nothing. He gave Rice much more support Keep trying.
MAJBobby Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) So did Bisciotti and he was going to do nothing. He gave Rice much more support Keep trying. Does Ray Rice have a Job? Does Josh Brown? Did Josh Brown get suspended by the NFL in accordance with the Policy? Did Gregg Hardy get suspended in excess of the Policy? Edited October 21, 2016 by MAJBobby
GG Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 Does Ray Rice have a Job? Does Josh Brown? Did Josh Brown get suspended by the NFL in accordance with the Policy? Did Gregg Hardy get suspended in excess of the Policy? How many were suspended within 24 hrs? Zero. How many still had full support of the owner? All of them
Fingon Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 So just to be clear: Josh Brown was investigated by the King County Sheriff's Department for domestic violence? They have him confessing to domestic violence? The prosecuting attorney declined to press charges? And the Giants are getting **** for not punishing him? Hey, people...how about we stop expecting the NFL to act as a law enforcement body? It's a little disturbing that NFL fans are outraged at the league for not punishing criminal behavior, and yet none of that outrage is directed at the prosecutor that declined to press charges. It's like fans only care about how many games a player misses and not what legal punishment they get.
thebandit27 Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 It's a little disturbing that NFL fans are outraged at the league for not punishing criminal behavior, and yet none of that outrage is directed at the prosecutor that declined to press charges. It's like fans only care about how many games a player misses and not what legal punishment they get. Again, the issue is why they went light on the suspension claiming no other confirmed incidents when they had to intervene in one themselves?
YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2016 Author Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) It's a little disturbing that NFL fans are outraged at the league for not punishing criminal behavior, and yet none of that outrage is directed at the prosecutor that declined to press charges. It's like fans only care about how many games a player misses and not what legal punishment they get.i don't think that's what most fans are discussing. It's that the NFL preaches a hard stance against DV, as did the NYG organization. It looks pretty hollow. It doesn't matter whether he was criminally charged. That's not the benchmark for the NFL. One of the incidents occurred at their own event! Edited October 21, 2016 by YoloinOhio
NoSaint Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 Does Ray Rice have a Job? Does Josh Brown? Did Josh Brown get suspended by the NFL in accordance with the Policy? Did Gregg Hardy get suspended in excess of the Policy? you sure do have a knack for getting people that generally agree with you to think you are unreasonable.
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 i don't think that's what most fans are discussing. It's that the NFL preaches a hard stance against DV, as did the NYG organization. It looks pretty hollow. The NFL has a vested interest in not publicizing DV events which do not come to light on their own. It's not dis-similar to the argument Kirby makes in regards to the NBA not testing for marijuana, because testing creates an environment in which players will test positive, with each positive test being a black eye for the league.
Wayne Cubed Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk Only after NFL suspended Josh Brown for one game did law enforcement dust off the case and conclude the investigation. Not acceptable.
DC Tom Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 When your Commish says it will not be tolerated but then it is not dealt with that is not an issue? It's an issue: specifically, it's an issue that Goodell is a preternatural moron. But when the justice system isn't punishing players at all for domestic violence, the issue should NOT be that the league isn't punishing players enough. Which issue do you actually want to discuss? The "domestic violence" issue, or a "Roger Goodell is a mammoth ****head" issue? If the latter...no kidding. If the former...the ire should be directed at the police, prosecutors, and courts, not the NFL.
Mr. WEO Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 It came out Ravens did something. It Came out Giants did nothing. See the different..... But hey I get it I am sure you think it is OK I am done with this conversation HERE. NFL Changed Policy because of blowback from Rice. Here it is.... The policy was toughened after the Ray Rice scandal in 2014. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell wrote the following in a letter to team owners in August of that year: "Effective immediately, violations of the Personal Conduct Policy regarding assault, battery, domestic violence or sexual assault that involve physical force, will be subject to a suspension without pay of six games for a first offense, with consideration given to mitigating factors as well as a longer suspension when circumstances warrant." Now NFL gets involved in an incident that included violence at the Probowl. Did Josh Brown get 6 games without pay. But keep your head in the sand Not exactly: he sent her texts with "cutting comments" and pounded on her door drunk. Keep digging, you'll get to the racist core of America soon...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 @AdamSchefter NFL is placing Giants kicker Josh Brown on the Commissioner's Exempt List, per @mortreport.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 @SportsCenter JUST IN: Giants' K Josh Brown will be moved to Commissioner's exempt list, and is unlikely to play for team again. (via @mortreport) @SportsCenter UPDATE: Multiple sources doubt Brown will ever play in NFL again, but kicker can still collect his salary. https://t.co/LauAXfGKkL
What a Tuel Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 i don't think that's what most fans are discussing. It's that the NFL preaches a hard stance against DV, as did the NYG organization. It looks pretty hollow. It doesn't matter whether he was criminally charged. That's not the benchmark for the NFL. One of the incidents occurred at their own event! Even if NFL fans aren't discussing it, it is kind of ignoring the elephant in the room. Furious outrage at the NFL for allowing pervasive domestic violence in its culture by giving light or minimum punishments to perpetrators, but prosecutors whose job it is to pursue cases such as these and ensure that people who commit crimes are punished isn't shown in a bad light at all. Almost like it is up to their discretion to charge people or not, but the NFL does it and SCANDAL!!! It just seems so backwards.
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