thebandit27 Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 here is what you are missing in that statement based on what im understanding. they said they thought the 2015 incident was isolated, and thats why they rescinded a minimum 6 game suspension. if they genuinely thought it isolated (and id prefer a cooperating witness denying/minimizing not just non-participation too) then sure, reducing it may make sense. but the league is now facing that they were in the loop on more than they admitted to. which causes issues. like they shouldve revisited it in January after the probowl, not in october when the press got hands on stuff. this coming from someone that currently leans towards letting the courts sort it out and the nfl not muddying the situation -- but someone that thinks that consistency is important. I should've shut up and read--nice summary great observation.. unfortunately , hysteria runs amok over common sense.. and the age of social media No, you need to understand the sequence of events better.
NoSaint Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 I think it's a terrible look. They instituted a policy that mandated a 6-game suspension for DV, which they then deviated from because they supposedly didn't have enough information about previous cases. However, they themselves had intervened in another domestic disturbance that was subsequent to the initial arrest. right. the second incident would have been a subsequent suspension had she called police instead of the nfl intervening. and yet they are reducing the first and saying they knew of nothing else. the nflpa could really make them uncomfortable here if they want.
thebandit27 Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 right. the second incident would have been a subsequent suspension had she called police instead of the nfl intervening. and yet they are reducing the first and saying they knew of nothing else. the nflpa could really make them uncomfortable here if they want. They could, but at the same time, it would bring a ton of heat down on the player.
What a Tuel Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 here is what you are missing in that statement based on what im understanding. they said they thought the 2015 incident was isolated, and thats why they rescinded a minimum 6 game suspension. if they genuinely thought it isolated (and id prefer a cooperating witness denying/minimizing not just non-participation too) then sure, reducing it may make sense. but the league is now facing that they were in the loop on more than they admitted to. which causes issues. like they shouldve revisited it in January after the probowl, not in october when the press got hands on stuff. I'm not sure they said they thought it was isolated. I think they admitted to knowing there was a lot more to it, but the police, and the victim wouldn't assist their investigation. You may disagree that this is the appropriate method of punishment, but I don't believe the NFL is trying to cover up or ignore anything. If this evidence was presented to them in the offseason, do you think they still go with 1 game?
YoloinOhio Posted October 20, 2016 Author Posted October 20, 2016 @zach_brown55 Look here @NFL Josh brown better get the same treatment as ray rice. Hitting a lady is not being a MAN.
H2o Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 @zach_brown55 Look here @NFL Josh brown better get the same treatment as ray rice. Hitting a lady is not being a MAN. This is true
dwight in philly Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 I should've shut up and read--nice summary No, you need to understand the sequence of events better. great to be lectured!.. nice..
YoloinOhio Posted October 20, 2016 Author Posted October 20, 2016 @albertbreer What needs to be amended re: Josh Brown now -- How this is new info when NFL security was involved at the Pro Bowl (per the police report).
thebandit27 Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 great to be lectured!.. nice.. Um, you called multiple people out for supposed hysteria--I merely told you that you needed to understand the situation better in response. See below... @albertbreer What needs to be amended re: Josh Brown now -- How this is new info when NFL security was involved at the Pro Bowl (per the police report).
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 also opens up the racial component considering Ray Rice and Greg Hardy are out of the league but he's not. No it absolutely does not. The Rice and Hardy incidents were very public, and their teams would have absolutely kept them on had that not been the case. Now that the Brown case has become very public, I'd expect the same for him. Yep, I still don't know if I think the NFL could really do much about this, but I have no doubt it will blow up. "A significant one allegedly occurred under the NFL's watch at the Pro Bowl in Hawaii last January, according to the police report. Molly told police that while she and Josh were in the process of getting a divorce, Josh offered to take her and her children to Hawaii and pay their expenses. She agreed, but then called that "a big mistake." Molly alleged that she was subject to "cutting comments" from Josh on that trip, and that he took her phone and searched through her texts, according to the police report. She also alleged that one night he got drunk and pounded on her door so loudly that NFL security and hotel security were called and had to escort Josh away. She also alleged that the NFL eventually put her and her kids up in a different hotel "where Josh would not know where they were," the police report said." That barely rises to the level of a domestic incident, and no one was physically accosted. The guy was absolutely in the wrong, but that's not something that should get you black balled from employment.
dwight in philly Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) Um, you called multiple people out for supposed hysteria--I merely told you that you needed to understand the situation better in response. See below... for crissakes. i didnt "call multiple people out" i was offering an opinion.. why do so many feel that they have to be the the thought police.. ? the "arbiters" on here.. a reason to lessen one's participation on here for sure Edited October 20, 2016 by dwight in philly
thebandit27 Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 for crissakes. i didnt "call multiple people out" i was offering an opinion.. why do so many feel that they have to be the the thought police.. ? the "arbiters" on here.. a reason to lessen one's participation on here for sure I have no idea why you would offer an opinion if you didn't want responses. I also had no idea that responding to your statement that thinking the NFL had a major issue on its hands for denying knowledge of a second domestic incident was tantamount to "hysteria" qualified as policing thought. Unless what you're really saying is "let me have my opinion and don't disagree with it", in which case it's helpful to the rest of us if you note that you don't want to discuss it further...otherwise someone like me might get the idea that your opinion is open to critique (much like you felt about the apparent "hysterics" of the board).
YoloinOhio Posted October 20, 2016 Author Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) Weird @albertbreer Also, just for context, the league filed an open-records request with the King County Sheriff on 5/26/15. It was granted last night. @rvacchianoSNY NFL was aware of Josh Brown incident at Pro Bowl, and helped his wife switch hotel rooms, source confirms ... https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/nfl-helped-browns-wife-switch-hotel-rooms-during-pro-bowl-weekend-incident/206723750?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Edited October 20, 2016 by YoloinOhio
PolishDave Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 I don't understand the fans' love affair with family issues that happen with players outside of their NFL life. What a world we live in....
dwight in philly Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) I have no idea why you would offer an opinion if you didn't want responses. I also had no idea that responding to your statement that thinking the NFL had a major issue on its hands for denying knowledge of a second domestic incident was tantamount to "hysteria" qualified as policing thought. Unless what you're really saying is "let me have my opinion and don't disagree with it", in which case it's helpful to the rest of us if you note that you don't want to discuss it further...otherwise someone like me might get the idea that your opinion is open to critique (much like you felt about the apparent "hysterics" of the board). i dont think the person offering said opinions should be critiqued.. a dialogue about the subject matter is what should take place (JMHO) .. why attack the messenger ? Edited October 20, 2016 by dwight in philly
YoloinOhio Posted October 20, 2016 Author Posted October 20, 2016 Mara just announced he will be inactive
boyst Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 @zach_brown55 Look here @NFL Josh brown better get the same treatment as ray rice. Hitting a lady is not being a MAN. grabbing our pitchforks already for this? Its like grrg hardy and ray rice all over agaib
thebandit27 Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 i dont think the person offering said opinions should be critiqued.. a dialogue about the subject matter is what should take place (JMHO) .. why attack the messenger ? I didn't see my statement as an attack; it was a simple comment implying that you didn't seem to be taking everything into account. Admittedly it could've been worded better.
YoloinOhio Posted October 20, 2016 Author Posted October 20, 2016 Please let this happen @albertbreer Ben McAdoo says Odell Beckham is one Giant who could serve as emergency kicker, says they're working on signing a kicker.
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