YoloinOhio Posted October 20, 2016 Author Posted October 20, 2016 <p> I don't know about the Pro Bowl situation but the linked article says this: Molly was told by police she was under no obligation to talk to NFL investigators after being contacted by a representative of the league. The league rep contacted the Kings County Sherriff's office several times over several months but was told by Robin Ostrum that she "would not discuss my open and active investigation." Molly told Ostrum that she didn't want to speak to the NFL because she feared the league "would only be looking to bury this whole incident and protect Josh."it is in the first link I believe
What a Tuel Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 it is in the first link I believe Yep, I still don't know if I think the NFL could really do much about this, but I have no doubt it will blow up. "A significant one allegedly occurred under the NFL's watch at the Pro Bowl in Hawaii last January, according to the police report. Molly told police that while she and Josh were in the process of getting a divorce, Josh offered to take her and her children to Hawaii and pay their expenses. She agreed, but then called that "a big mistake." Molly alleged that she was subject to "cutting comments" from Josh on that trip, and that he took her phone and searched through her texts, according to the police report. She also alleged that one night he got drunk and pounded on her door so loudly that NFL security and hotel security were called and had to escort Josh away. She also alleged that the NFL eventually put her and her kids up in a different hotel "where Josh would not know where they were," the police report said."
Max Fischer Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Only one game for domestic violence? Makes sense, because he stood for the National Anthem and didn't smoke pot.
YoloinOhio Posted October 20, 2016 Author Posted October 20, 2016 @jasoncoleBR #Giants spokesman said the team was unaware of the documents in the Josh Brown case prior to their release.
Mr. WEO Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 At its core, the NFL is all about the NFCE and the Giants in particular, and so it's been forever. In many ways, it's the NFCE then everybody else. The league is NYC-based, as are the media companies, the ad agencies, the bankers. And many of the execs are area natives. Does a day go by that NFLN doesn't do numerous reports on every little detail of the Giants, not to mention the other three NFCE teams? Meanwhile, you can go hours if not days with almost nothing on other teams, save 4 or 5 franchises who have a national following (Packers, Steelers, Raiders, Pats, etc.) or a currently hot team like the Bills, though they drop those teams in a hurry when they cool off, something that never happens to NFCE teams no matter how poorly they play. So no surprise that a Josh Brown, playing in NYC, appears to get more "sensitive" treatment than someone playing for the Browns or some other "minor" franchise. The top headline on nfl.com IS about the Giants--you're right!! lol Not sure how the 2 about the Bills and the 2 others about the Steelers got on there---heads will roll for that, right? I mean, the other 28 owners outside of the NFCE are all pretty cool with league only paying attention to and promoting one division. It all makes sense because............................why is it that this makes sense? I must have forgotten.
yungmack Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 The question is if the NFL had these documents that the Sheriff's office released now. They claimed they had insufficient evidence and the victim and the police wouldn't play ball. Why would they risk this all on a kicker? He's a kicker. I am hesitant to say after the whole Ray Rice thing that the NFL said, "We need to protect this kicker from harsh treatment for the sake of the Giants." Didn't say that. What I am suggesting is a bias towards the NFCE, the Giants especially, which might be expressed as being more forgiving towards its miscreants.
Kirby Jackson Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 @jasoncoleBR #Giants spokesman said the team was unaware of the documents in the Josh Brown case prior to their release. They better hope that's true. If they had any knowledge it's a bad look for the Giants.
BarleyNY Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 The Giants are one of about 4 teams that have gotten very preferential treatment from Goodell. This is just another case of it. Anyone else remember how pissed off the Jets were when they were informed that the league and Giants had the coin flip to determine which team got the first game in the new stadium? No notification to the Jets or representative present. Seems like the Giants won that flip. Now this. I'd love to see Goodell ousted, but I suspect he will dodge another bullet here. He's made the owners too much money. He will be hurt much worse if ratings stay low. I can see that doing him in.
YoloinOhio Posted October 20, 2016 Author Posted October 20, 2016 Wasn't the NFL supposed to do an "investigation"? How did they miss his admissions? @jasoncoleBR Can #Giants not only find a kicker to replace Josh Brown, if they decide to cut him, but does that kicker have a passport to get to London?
aristocrat Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 somehow doug whaley should be held responsible for this.
YoloinOhio Posted October 20, 2016 Author Posted October 20, 2016 @rvacchianoSNY The NFL said it is going to re-open its investigation into Josh Brown in light of the new information in the recently released documents.
thebandit27 Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 @rvacchianoSNY The NFL said it is going to re-open its investigation into Josh Brown in light of the new information in the recently released documents. This is a last-ditch attempt to save face; they clearly knew it was an issue since the pro bowl, and they went light on him anyway.
Pneumonic Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 Only one game for domestic violence? Makes sense, because he stood for the National Anthem and didn't smoke pot. not to mention he didn't celebrate excessively out on the field .... since the NFL just stated they are controlling such celebratory antics 'in order that NFL players can be good role models" The NFL are a bunch of hypocrites who care about nothing but making $$$$$. It's no wonder their ratings are down so much.
YoloinOhio Posted October 20, 2016 Author Posted October 20, 2016 @andrewbrandt NFL was called out by judge in Rice arbitration for lax investigation/reliance on legal system. Vowed to investigate harder, but challenges.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 @NFL NFL statement on Josh Brown: http://on.nfl.com/XO5ue1
What a Tuel Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) @NFL NFL statement on Josh Brown: http://on.nfl.com/XO5ue1 I don't see the huge issue here. The courts aren't doing anything to Josh Brown because charges were dropped, and we are putting more pressure on his employer to penalize him than the courts. In the meantime, the NFL reached out to the involved parties including police, who refused to provide them the evidence that they requested, and advised the victim that she didn't need to speak with NFL investigators. Based on that evidence, they suspended Josh Brown 1 game. When the evidence became available, they showed a willingness to revisit the case and consider the new evidence for further discipline. Edited October 20, 2016 by What a Tuel
NoSaint Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) I don't see the huge issue here. The courts aren't doing anything to Josh Brown because charges were dropped, and we are putting more pressure on his employer to penalize him than the courts. In the meantime, the NFL reached out to the involved parties including police, who refused to provide them the evidence that they requested, and advised the victim that she didn't need to speak with NFL investigators. Based on that evidence, they suspended Josh Brown 1 game. When the evidence became available, they showed a willingness to revisit the case and consider the new evidence for further discipline. here is what you are missing in that statement based on what im understanding. they said they thought the 2015 incident was isolated, and thats why they rescinded a minimum 6 game suspension. if they genuinely thought it isolated (and id prefer a cooperating witness denying/minimizing not just non-participation too) then sure, reducing it may make sense. but the league is now facing that they were in the loop on more than they admitted to. which causes issues. like they shouldve revisited it in January after the probowl, not in october when the press got hands on stuff. this coming from someone that currently leans towards letting the courts sort it out and the nfl not muddying the situation -- but someone that thinks that consistency is important. Edited October 20, 2016 by NoSaint
thebandit27 Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 I don't see the huge issue here. The courts aren't doing anything to Josh Brown because charges were dropped, and we are putting more pressure on his employer to penalize him than the courts. In the meantime, the NFL reached out to the involved parties including police, who refused to provide them the evidence that they requested, and advised the victim that she didn't need to speak with NFL investigators. Based on that evidence, they suspended Josh Brown 1 game. When the evidence became available, they showed a willingness to revisit the case and consider the new evidence for further discipline. I think it's a terrible look. They instituted a policy that mandated a 6-game suspension for DV, which they then deviated from because they supposedly didn't have enough information about previous cases. However, they themselves had intervened in another domestic disturbance that was subsequent to the initial arrest.
dwight in philly Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) I don't see the huge issue here. The courts aren't doing anything to Josh Brown because charges were dropped, and we are putting more pressure on his employer to penalize him than the courts. In the meantime, the NFL reached out to the involved parties including police, who refused to provide them the evidence that they requested, and advised the victim that she didn't need to speak with NFL investigators. Based on that evidence, they suspended Josh Brown 1 game. When the evidence became available, they showed a willingness to revisit the case and consider the new evidence for further discipline. great observation.. unfortunately , hysteria runs amok over common sense.. in the age of social media Edited October 20, 2016 by dwight in philly
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