26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Eye no. Just that Mr. Big Toke hasn't contributed at all to this year's squad. [/grumblegrumblegrumble] Just wait until the new spleen is in. He will be back and better than ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Why would they trade Jeffrey? They can tag or extend him and he's young. To get future picks and upgrade their weak defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) Schopp and the Bulldog were talking about his last night. My view is that you wait until after the Miami game before you seriously consider trading (and giving up assets) for a receiver. If you win that game you are 5-2 with the two toughest remaining games on your schedule (you are to an extent playing with house money against NE and Seattle) coming up, followes by the bye. So even if worst case scenario you were 5-4 coming off that run you would have had 4 weeks to get your new guy in the play book and up to speed ready to contribute down the stretch. If you lose to Miami the season is probably not going to be a playoff year so you roll with what you have. Who is out there as an option? Jeffrey is one (probably at a high cost 3rd rounder maybe? And then there is making his cap hit work), at a much lower cost what about Ted Ginn Jnr? Had a nice year as a deep threat in a similar offense in Carolina last year. Might get him for a 6th or 7th and he would be better than Goodwin. The other one that really intruiges me is what would it take to get Jordan Matthews out of Philly? I know he is their best receiver but he was a Chip pick not a pick made by this regime and they have a hell of a difficult schedule still to come. The fact they made the Bradford trade tells me that for the right price this team is willing to trade assets this year to be in a position to build the strongest possible team around Wentz long term. They might slap you straight down I accept but if I was going to make trade phone calls he would be the first call I'd make. I think barring a bunch of injuries, we likely roll with what we have. We added hunter, and we have people on the PS if we need them. We already have no 4th (Ragland trade) and no 7th pick this year (we do have the extra 5th from the cassell trade). I don't think we do much at the deadline. The draft is how you stay under the cap, and stay relevant year in year out. Losing a 3rd round pick trading for a receiver we can't re-sign just costs us a contributor next year. To get future picks and upgrade their weak defense. Is trading him for a 3rd that much better than what they get in compensatory picks if he walks? Maybe a little bit, but none of the front office will be around to use it if they hit rock bottom. And you lose the option of re-signing him. Edited October 19, 2016 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I think barring a bunch of injuries, we likely roll with what we have. We added hunter, and we have people on the PS if we need them. We already have no 4th (Ragland trade) and no 7th pick this year (we do have the extra 5th from the cassell trade). I don't think we do much at the deadline. The draft is how you stay under the cap, and stay relevant year in year out. Losing a 3rd round pick trading for a receiver we can't re-sign just costs us a contributor next year. I think they likely do as well because there are not enough options that make the risk / reward worth it. I'd give up a 3rd for a year and a half of Jordan Matthews though at $1.5m cap hit. I at least make that phone call if I am Whaley even if the response from Philly is a flat "no deal". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I think they likely do as well because there are not enough options that make the risk / reward worth it. I'd give up a 3rd for a year and a half of Jordan Matthews though at $1.5m cap hit. I at least make that phone call if I am Whaley even if the response from Philly is a flat "no deal". I think if they were worse it may be an option - but he's currently Wentz favorite target. I'd try and keep my rookie QB happy if it were me. Having 3 receivers on the PS also makes me think we're trying to have guys ready should someone go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Why would you ever get rid of the best corner on your team when attempting a playoff run??? And you'd have to trade him to a contender not someone who's rebuiliding and has no guarantee of resigning him... which means you'll get draft picks for him Everyone keeps floating Alshon's name around, but it's not critical to have him in the offence we run. I'd be fine sending a 4th but that's about it. Also... Justin Hunter = 2 TD on 2 catches in 2 weeks. He's comin along fine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I've said it before - Kendall Wright. The Titans seem to have soured on him for whatever reason, but he'd be a perfect fit in this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I've said it before - Kendall Wright. The Titans seem to have soured on him for whatever reason, but he'd be a perfect fit in this offense. He just had a huge game with mariota. That team just has a Mularkey problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I've said it before - Kendall Wright. The Titans seem to have soured on him for whatever reason, but he'd be a perfect fit in this offense. Yes he is another name worth considering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 i'd absolutely trade for alshon jeffrey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I don't see why Sammy cannot recover fully and flourish just as Julio Jones has. However, If they can work out the compensation and handle the cap hit then AJ is a fantastic trade idea. He had that potential after being drafted and not so sure anymore that he can get healthy and stay that way. Not like Julio anyway. The problem is he has been injured since day one which has restricted his play due to various injuries. Broken foot, broken ribs, groin injury, hip injury that required surgery, hamstring, calf, ankle... AJ yes. Although, I'd like to see DeSean Jackson in a Buffalo uni too. A darn shame the team can't trade the reefer man because one more toke and he is gone for a year. The team is winning without him. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Jeffrey is playing under franchise tag, roughly $15 million in BASE SALARY; no bonuses. This means whoever is trading for him needs to fit his prorated salary under their cap. If they wait until the deadline, that is roughly $9 million. We don't have that space. Secondly, trading any starters off the roster is simply asinine. I'm in agreement that giving Gilmore a large contract is a bad idea, but ripping him out of the starting lineup would be a disaster. If a trade is to be made, a small salaried player is the only option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 hahahahahahaha...you owe me one mouthful of coffee and a couple screen cleansing wipes Because reasons, dammit. You want a seat on the hype train or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Before it's over I'd like to see the Bills make trade to upgrade the WR position. I don't think that the Bills can rely on Sammy this year or any other year as far as dependability goes. I remember when we had Moulds and Peerless Price as a #1 and #1A for WRs. It was quite a luxury and I would love to see the Bills be in that position again. If a trade could be had with Chicago for Alshon Jeffrey then I think that Whaley should jump all over it. As far compensation goes maybe a player and a pick could get it done. It seems that they are in need of some secondary help and I wouldn't be against shipping Gilmore over there before we have to pay him big money or just let him walk, either scenario isn't beneficial to the Bills imo so I'd like to see them get some kind of return with Gilmore. I believe that we have some decent depth at that position and I just don't see our current WRs getting us very far later in the season. Think about it this way. When an NFL team uses a high pick, they are getting a 4 year return on their investment (ROI) with an option for 5 for the higher rounds. When an NFL team trades for a player, they are getting whatever years the player has left on their contract as a ROI for whatever it is they invest in the trade. This is the reason why players halfway through the last year on their contract are seldom traded. You might not be against shipping Gilmore out, but teams that know he's playing on the last year of his contract and will cost $14M to tag don't see the ROI as being in their favor. A rare exception might be a team that sees themselves as one piece away from true contention this year. The problem with that is, if they are contending, do they really have the depth to spare a quality player at our position of need? Example: Green Bay has a crying need at DB. But who do you see in their WR corp they could spare? IMO they could use a WR or 2, not give one up! Likewise, you might be in favor of trading Gilmore and a draft pick for Alshon Jeffrey, but we turn a position of strength (DB) into a position where we're now thin, and we get a 1 1/2 year $14M franchise tag in exchange for the 4-5 year ROI from our pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Stick with Justin Hunter for now. Doing good so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPicc2114 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 When I saw Alshon Jeffery I laughed. He's less dependable than Sammy. Dude is always hurt I'd take Brandon Marshall off the Jets hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 When you have a chance to win the whole thing you have to go for the jugular. Calvin Johnson or Brandon Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 If I'm Trader Doug: I'd see what the Jets want in return for Forte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 When you have a chance to win the whole thing you have to go for the jugular. Calvin Johnson or Brandon Marshall Haha Megatron? That would be amazing, but pretty doubtful imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) Calvin is still property of the Lions if he wants to play again... I wish!!! When you have a chance to win the whole thing you have to go for the jugular. Calvin Johnson or Brandon Marshall Edited October 19, 2016 by BillsShredder83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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