BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 We made a mistake with signing Dareus to a large deal and will do so again with Gilmore as Rex needed some these elite players for his defense, offense will suffer as seems like 75 per cent of cap goes to defense.
Last Guy on the Bench Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 AW was every bit the player here. He was one of the best CBs I ever saw and the very best tackler of any player that ever played on the Bills. He didn't get a lot of INTs but he was incredible against the run and the pass. A lot of people thought Clements was better because he would get a turnover now and then but he got burnt a lot and AW rarely got beat. He was exactly the player on the Vikes he was here, which was quietly great. Totally agree. Definitely one of my absolute favorite post-Super Bowl Bills. Letting him get away felt terrible to me at the time and continued to all through his excellent years with the Vikes, though I was glad to see him doing well. Watching him tackle (at all of 5'9") was pure football pleasure. He took everybody down cold, no matter how big they were. No clinging/dragging/hoping from that little dude. He was a baller. If he had ball skills, he would have been a Hall of Famer, IMO.
bmur66 Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 I actually saw him tackle someone yesterday. I guess he figured if he didn't tackle a QB he wouldn't hear the end of it.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 We made a mistake with signing Dareus to a large deal and will do so again with Gilmore as Rex needed some these elite players for his defense, offense will suffer as seems like 75 per cent of cap goes to defense. Shady and Glenn are laughing at you.
Blokestradamus Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Anyone mentioning Darby getting toasted by Torrey Smith? Thought not. I look forward to 2018 when you talk yourself out of re-signing him as well Edited October 17, 2016 by Blokestradamus
Maury Ballstein Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 We made a mistake with signing Dareus to a large deal and will do so again with Gilmore as Rex needed some these elite players for his defense, offense will suffer as seems like 75 per cent of cap goes to defense. You mean you want to apologize to Whaley for all of your rants ?
thebandit27 Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Anyone mentioning Darby getting toasted by Torrey Smith? Thought not. I look forward to 2018 when you talk yourself out of re-signing him as well It's truly incredible, isn't it? We don't bat an eyelash when a journeyman like Brandon LaFell abuses a pro bowler like Malcolm Butler in the red zone yesterday, but Gilmore gives up his first TD of the season yesterday (assuming it was his mistake, which it most likely was), and he's not worth re-signing. Amazing.
nucci Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Shady and Glenn are laughing at you. so is Tyrod
DrDawkinstein Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Shady and Glenn are laughing at you. so is Tyrod And Wood and Incognito who have been extended since Whaley has been here. And Clay.
Alaska Darin Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 AW was every bit the player here. He was one of the best CBs I ever saw and the very best tackler of any player that ever played on the Bills. He didn't get a lot of INTs but he was incredible against the run and the pass. A lot of people thought Clements was better because he would get a turnover now and then but he got burnt a lot and AW rarely got beat. He was exactly the player on the Vikes he was here, which was quietly great. Agreed. His only real weakness was losing on jump balls in the red zone but AW was ridiculously consistent and a vicious tackler.
YoloinOhio Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Bills have given up 3 passing TDs in 6 games.
Blokestradamus Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 It's truly incredible, isn't it? We don't bat an eyelash when a journeyman like Brandon LaFell abuses a pro bowler like Malcolm Butler in the red zone yesterday, but Gilmore gives up his first TD of the season yesterday (assuming it was his mistake, which it most likely was), and he's not worth re-signing. Amazing. I have no problem in being critical of Gilmore. His tackling has gone from reckless to completely passive. Yesterday, I believe he was at fault for the blown coverage. He's absolutely had his bad moments in coverage, especially in Week 2. That being said, he's still been our best corner this year. We just don't focus on Darby's errors because it'll ruin the idea that we'll be alright without Stephon.
MAJBobby Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 It's really hard to see how it could be anyone's fault but Gilmore. He was oblivious to the receiver that blew by him. Ever think He had flat responsibility and Darby had deep 3rd. Ahhhhh see how that works. Helps to know the defense
thebandit27 Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 I have no problem in being critical of Gilmore. His tackling has gone from reckless to completely passive. Yesterday, I believe he was at fault for the blown coverage. He's absolutely had his bad moments in coverage, especially in Week 2. That being said, he's still been our best corner this year. We just don't focus on Darby's errors because it'll ruin the idea that we'll be alright without Stephon. Agreed.
MAJBobby Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Love all the excuses for Gilmore. Guess people quickly forgot about the Jets game and how Mr. Inconsistency, Ryan Fitzpatrick shredded the secondary in that game. Darby was worse that game. Just saying
MDH Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 AW was every bit the player here. He was one of the best CBs I ever saw and the very best tackler of any player that ever played on the Bills. He didn't get a lot of INTs but he was incredible against the run and the pass. A lot of people thought Clements was better because he would get a turnover now and then but he got burnt a lot and AW rarely got beat. He was exactly the player on the Vikes he was here, which was quietly great. I was just about to post a very similar response then I saw there was no need.
MAJBobby Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Shady and Glenn are laughing at you. So isnt Taylor
DrDawkinstein Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 WRT Gilmore... It's a tough spot for the Bills and Whaley to be in, for sure. As Bloke points out, he is our best CB. But as anyone with eyes can tell, his play hasn't warranted a top-5 contract. I guess all we can really do is watch this play out. If we let him walk (a la Clements, Byrd, Searcy, Levitre), I'll understand. If we re-sign him and prevent having that hole in the roster to fill, I'll understand too.
thebandit27 Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Love all the excuses vitriol for Gilmore over one play. Guess people quickly forgot about the Jets game last 4 seasons . Went ahead an edited that for ya Yesterday's miscommunication was the first TD he allowed this season (again, assuming it was his responsibility). If you have to look at a game from 4 weeks back in order to try to justify a point about a single play, then does your point really hold water?
papazoid Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Gilmore is good....but not franchise tag $14/mil/yr good.
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