B-Man Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 From the one and only Mark Steyn: Laws are for the Little People...................http://www.steynonline.com/7564/laws-are-for-the-little-people Just ahead of tonight's final debate (from which I shall be several thousand miles away): As I've said for years - on radio, TV and in print - for me the overriding issue in American politics is the corruption. In the Obama era, we have seen the remorseless merging of the party and the state - in the IRS, in the Justice Department and elsewhere. Whatever one feels about, say, Scandinavia, they at least come to their statism and socialism more or less honestly. Not so the United States. It's bad enough that Democrats aren't agitated about this corruption - but then it works to their advantage. Slightly more mysterious is why so many of my friends on the right aren't incensed by it. For months, conservative commentators assured us that, when it comes to straight arrows, no arrow is straighter than FBI honcho James Comey - non-partisan, career public servant, will follow the evidence whereso'er it leads; why, "no one in law enforcement" is "more capable of navigating through a political maelstrom" and any attempts to politicize the outcome will ensure that "Comey will resign in protest, and other high-level FBI officials could follow him out the door". All bollocks. Bollocks on stilts. Like everything else the Clintons touch, Comey's FBI is hopelessly corrupted - and certainly more corrupt than J Edgar Hoover's FBI, at least in the sense that Hoover was independent enough not to get rolled. The revelations of what happened reveal Comey to be a hack and a squish: he offered immunity to Hillary's aides not to facilitate his investigation but to obstruct any further investigation; he allowed witnesses to Hillary's crimes to serve as her "lawyers"; and he physically destroyed the evidence - that is, the laptops. {snip} So, to add to the corrupt revenue agency and the corrupt justice department, we now have a corrupt national law enforcement agency and a corrupt foreign ministry - willing, indeed, to subordinate national security and its own diplomatic policy to the personal needs of Hillary Clinton. Needless to say, if you get your news from ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times, etc, etc, you will be entirely unaware of all this. Which is the way they plan on operating for the next eight years. A small but telling point: Wikileaks' Julian Assange has lived in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London for over four years. But not until he leaked against Hillary was his Internet cut off. Hillary, out of office, has a swifter and more ruthless global reach than Hillary in office on the night of Benghazi. And, should she win, her view of her subjects is that we should have the same information access as Ecuadorian Embassy refugees. In any society, the chief magistrate's first duty is to uphold the law, and throughout human history his easiest temptation, once in office, has been to regard himself as above it. In this case, the American people would be electing someone who, not yet in office, is already above the law, and way beyond it. That would be an extraordinary act, and Hillary and her cronies would be entirely justified in treating such an electorate with utter contempt Trump is an unknown. But, to channel Donald Rumsfeld, Hillary is the most known known in the history of knowns. And what we know of her is that she's stinkingly corrupt, above the law, and able to suborn entire government agencies in the cause of her corruption. Where do you think we're gonna be after eight years of that? Oh, and it will be eight years. The NeverTrumpers are saying, "Don't worry. We'll get it right in 2020", just like after 2012 they said, "Don't worry. We'll get it right in 2016", and after 2008 they said, "Don't worry. We'll get it right in 2012." Next time never comes. There are no tomorrows for the Republican Party, because, unlike the GOP, the Democrats use their victories very effectively. With respect to my former colleagues in the New York and Washington commentariat, I don't think they have any idea of how bleak life is in many parts of this country. And I don't mean Jimmy Carter-like "malaise" - a brief blip after three decades of post-war prosperity - but bleakness as a permanent feature of life. Perhaps I'm touchy about the corruption because I'm a foreigner and I've lived in countries with clean government. Perhaps I'm sensitive to the contempt in which a put-upon middle-class is held because I've spent much of the last year in wealthy first-world countries (France, Sweden, Germany) that are on the verge of implosion over their delusional immigration policies. But the indifference from influential conservatives to both the despair and the naked corruption is deeply disturbing. Think of what the last eight years have wrought - Obamacare, a weaponized IRS, six-figure fines for homophobic bakeries - and then pitch America forward to 2024. Picture the most absurd scenario you can concoct - say, a federal transgender-bathroom regime. Oh, no, wait, we've already got that. The left is serious about power, and they don't waste time. The idea that the most personally corrupt candidate in modern American history will govern as some sort of benign moderate centrist placeholder until the wankers who thought Jeb Bush was a superstar shoo-in come up with their next inspiration is utterly preposterous. Enjoy the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I was a Rand Paul guy. When he dropped out, I moved over to following the Libertarian Party primary race. Became a huge Austin Petersen fan. When Gary "Bake the Damn Cake" JOhnson was selected, I started looking for write in candidates. The only reason I might still vote Gary Johnson, would be to increase the visability of the Libertarian Party, and hope that a true libertarian like Austin Petersen is selected in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) This thread's poll is pretty indicative of the country. 39 votes (so far) Only 6 for Hillary (the likely winner) only 12 for Trump. No one likes these candidates Added: Tired of Hillary and Donald? You Have Options! Edited October 19, 2016 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I was a Rand Paul guy. When he dropped out, I moved over to following the Libertarian Party primary race. Became a huge Austin Petersen fan. When Gary "Bake the Damn Cake" JOhnson was selected, I started looking for write in candidates. The only reason I might still vote Gary Johnson, would be to increase the visability of the Libertarian Party, and hope that a true libertarian like Austin Petersen is selected in 2020. I'm voting Johnson with the hope that Rand Paul will declare (L) next cycle, and that he'll have access to the Federal Election Fund Grant when he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Hillary’s Lead Among Young Voters Is Roughly Half Obama’s Margin in 2012 If you had told me two years ago that Hillary Clinton was getting just 43 percent of the vote among voters under age 30, I would have said that the Republican nominee must be in great shape: In the new Journal/NBC News poll, conducted Oct. 10-13, Mrs. Clinton led Mr. Trump among 18- to 29-year-old likely voters by 13 percentage points, 43% to 30%. That’s narrower than Mr. Obama’s 23-point margin over GOP nominee Mitt Romney with that age group in 2012. In 2012, Mr. Obama relied heavily on college towns in the battleground states he won. He captured the vote in 32 of 40 college-town counties in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, New Hampshire, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin, according to the county typology of the American Communities Project. In those counties, Mr. Obama captured 58% of the vote, compared with 52% in those states overall. As is, this is pretty good news for Trump, but a testament to Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, and perhaps Evan McMullin. There’s also a good chance that turnout in this demographic is lower than 2012. Given a menu of options they don’t like, younger voters may just opt to stay home. Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Participant comparison... PPP: Clinton: 21.4% Trump: 46.4% Johnson: 32.1% RCP: Clinton: 45.2% Trump: 39.2% Johnson: 6.4% 538: Clinton: 45.2% Trump: 38.9% Johnson: 6.2% Is it safe to say this place leans Conservative/Libertarian compared to the rest of the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Participant comparison... PPP: Clinton: 21.4% Trump: 46.4% Johnson: 32.1% RCP: Clinton: 45.2% Trump: 39.2% Johnson: 6.4% 538: Clinton: 45.2% Trump: 38.9% Johnson: 6.2% Is it safe to say this place leans Conservative/Libertarian compared to the rest of the country? Probably. Though I wouldn't really say it leans "Republican." And those selections here don't necessarily represent political leanings. My vote was for the most dysfunctional candidate to lead an increasingly dysfunctional government.. That's not represented by anything on the political spectrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Participant comparison... PPP: Clinton: 21.4% Trump: 46.4% Johnson: 32.1% RCP: Clinton: 45.2% Trump: 39.2% Johnson: 6.4% 538: Clinton: 45.2% Trump: 38.9% Johnson: 6.2% Is it safe to say this place leans Conservative/Libertarian compared to the rest of the country? When it comes to polls, there is no apples to apples comparison. While poll methodology makes the brain of the average American bleed, it matters how you ask the questions, to whom, sampling error, etc. That's why you can have such wild swings - Clinton is up 7 points in Poll X but in Poll Y, Trump leads by 3. Here is an article on how the polls fared in the 2012 election. I've added the link to the most accurate poll from 2012 based on that article. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/which-polls-fared-best-and-worst-in-the-2012-presidential-race/?_r=0 http://www.investors.com/politics/trumps-1-point-lead-holds-despite-debate-uproar-ibdtipp-poll/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cugalabanza Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Probably. Though I wouldn't really say it leans "Republican." My vote was for the most dysfunctional candidate to lead an increasingly dysfunctional government.. That's not represented by anything on the political spectrum. That's true. You may be the only member of the Methodological Sarcastic Anarchist party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 That's true. You may be the only member of the Methodological Sarcastic Anarchist party. Sort of a Groucho-Marxist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Sort of a Groucho-Marxist. Or the Hillary quote........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Is it safe to say this place leans Conservative/Libertarian compared to the rest of the country? Is it safe to say that you're a Leftist who confuses Conservative/Libertarian for the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) YOU DON’T SAY: “‘A DDoS attack could certainly impact these votes and make a big difference in swing states,’ Dr. Simons said on Friday. ‘This is a strong argument for why we should not allow voters to send their voted ballots over the internet.’” Who knew? Edited October 22, 2016 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Is it safe to say that you're a Leftist who confuses Conservative/Libertarian for the same thing? Yes, I am a leftist. No, I do not think Conservatives and Libertarians are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Yes, I am a leftist. No, I do not think Conservatives and Libertarians are the same. You're too sane to be an actual leftist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Someone spike your coffee this morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Someone spike your coffee this morning? Haven't even had it yet. Been working since 7:30, still trying to have breakfast. I hate my job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Yes, I am a leftist. No, I do not think Conservatives and Libertarians are the same. And yet you lump them together in a previous post Haven't even had it yet. Been working since 7:30, still trying to have breakfast. I hate my job. Video from Tom's morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 And yet you lump them together in a previous post Think political compass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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