boyst Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 I think I recall Rex sharing a stage with one of the candidates not too long ago. your bias is showing Roger and it is clearly prejudicial
The Wiz Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 Well good to see TBD has gone to **** again. I'm just gonna go see if Karlos' gf is tweeting again.
Kirby Jackson Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 This is no surprise. The second that Rex introduced him at a rally I cringed. 2 things that don't belong in the workplace are politics and religion. Those topics inherently divide people. Practice what you believe, vote for who you prefer but do not try to inflict your beliefs on anyone else and respect those whose beliefs differ. It really isn't that hard.
Mickey Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 I'm going to weigh in on the side of let the man speak his mind, and let players react and speak theirs. Compartmentalizing deeper issues (politics, spirit, morals, life, etc.) from work is what has made so many amoral organizations in the first place, and it has done great damage to this planet, albeit producing lots of cool stuff along the way. I love Rex. But it doesn't surprise me that he is attracted to some aspects of Trump's personality. And for the record, I doubt too many people on this board are more radical or liberal than I am, and I think Trump is a complete travesty in every conceivable way. But I still support Rex's right to express himself however he wants, and different players' right to react, and Kap's right to take a knee (which I admire - unlike Rex's stance). We need to stop being so scared and buttoned-down and corporate about everything and re-learn how to live in human communities where different people have different values and make different sense of the world. I'm glad Rex is our coach, though I couldn't disagree with him more about his choice of candidate. Well said. And on most occasions this is the way it should work. Everyone says what they want to say in a mutually respectful way and then get back to work. But this election just seems different to me. It is the most toxic, divisive, ugly and polarizing election I can remember. No way all that can be kept out of an NFL locker room. Sooner or later, its going to cause problems. I'm just gonna hang on and hope for the best.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 This is no surprise. The second that Rex introduced him at a rally I cringed. 2 things that don't belong in the workplace are politics and religion. Those topics inherently divide people. Practice what you believe, vote for who you prefer but do not try to inflict your beliefs on anyone else and respect those whose beliefs differ. It really isn't that hard again, I'm missing something here. Rex introduced Trump at a Trump rally, not at a Buffalo Bills practice. How is that different than following your sensible adage: "Practice what you believe, vote for who you prefer but do not try to inflict your beliefs on anyone else and respect those whose beliefs differ." was there another event?
Last Guy on the Bench Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 Well said. And on most occasions this is the way it should work. Everyone says what they want to say in a mutually respectful way and then get back to work. But this election just seems different to me. It is the most toxic, divisive, ugly and polarizing election I can remember. No way all that can be kept out of an NFL locker room. Sooner or later, its going to cause problems. I'm just gonna hang on and hope for the best. True - this is a very fraught political environment. And a judicious coach would certainly not advertise his political preferences right now. But Rex is not especially judicious (understatement) and I kind of like that about him. He shoots from the hip/heart/testicles and that's OK. Many people say that Trump also shoots that way, but unlike Trump, Rex actually has some humility and power of self reflection. He'll admit when he is wrong, or is ignorant about something. He'll admit that Belichick (God rot his soul) is probably the best coach in history. You'll never hear things like that coming out of Trump's mouth. So I can take Rex's bombast and half-formed opinions, because they feel authentic and they feel like they are coming from a living, breathing, evolving human being. I like him and I think the team will continue to like and respect him even if they are troubled by his support of Trump. 17-2, baby - to steal from The Senator.
Deranged Rhino Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 There's some classic gold in here by some newbies. They know not what they do.
dwight in philly Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 True - this is a very fraught political environment. And a judicious coach would certainly not advertise his political preferences right now. But Rex is not especially judicious (understatement) and I kind of like that about him. He shoots from the hip/heart/testicles and that's OK. Many people say that Trump also shoots that way, but unlike Trump, Rex actually has some humility and power of self reflection. He'll admit when he is wrong, or is ignorant about something. He'll admit that Belichick (God rot his soul) is probably the best coach in history. You'll never hear things like that coming out of Trump's mouth. So I can take Rex's bombast and half-formed opinions, because they feel authentic and they feel like they are coming from a living, breathing, evolving human being. I like him and I think the team will continue to like and respect him even if they are troubled by his support of Trump. 17-2, baby - to steal from The Senator. i gather you are not a trump supporter.. no problem.. but i really think rex does not need, nor would want, apologists..
Gugny Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 By your "reasoning," one might argue that you have more of a link to him than Rex given that you repeatedly mentioned his name in this thread. Such "reasoning" would be flawed in either instance given that I trust that you have no link to that awful person David Duke. Fair enough. It was a stretch, I'll admit. i do, however, think that people in high positions within any organization should be smart about their endorsements. I believe in, and support, everyone's freedoms. Sometimes, however, common sense needs to prevail. I don't think it's smart that someone in "upper management," in an organization in which over 70% of its "employees," are African American, gets involved in any way, shape or form, with this presidential race. Does he have the right? Absolutely. Should he exercise it in his position, as part of this organization, in this particular race? I don't think so, personally.
DrDawkinstein Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 I'm with Boyst. Why is this back on the main page when we just got rid of two other threads?
Last Guy on the Bench Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) i gather you are not a trump supporter.. no problem.. but i really think rex does not need, nor would want, apologists.. I'm not sure what you mean. The topic of the thread is whether or not Rex should have voiced his opinion and whether or not that will have a negative effect on the team. I'm just saying that I'm fine with his voicing his opinion, despite the fact it is contrary to mine, and I am not worried at all about its effect on the team. Furthermore, I'm adding in my overall opinion about the kind of person and coach Rex is (a good one on both counts in my eyes), which people seem to do all the time - positively and negatively - in practically every thread on this board. I like Rex and think he is a pretty good coach, though not perfect. If that makes me an apologist, OK then. And I think Rex in fact does want people to support him and like him, so I'm going to have to disagree with you about that. Also, in another comment you complained that people are critiquing Rex while supporting Kap and that that is agenda-based hypocrisy. I'm agreeing with you and using myself as a counterexample. My "agenda" is squarely in the pro-Kap, pro BLM, anti-Trump corner. But I also support Rex's right to express his political views. And more than just a right, I think it is actually healthy that he is doing so. So if I critique him I'm a hypocrite, and if I support him I'm an apologist? How does that work? Edited October 6, 2016 by Last Guy on the Bench
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 I don't think it's smart that someone in "upper management," in an organization in which over 70% of its "employees," are African American, gets involved in any way, shape or form, with this presidential race. Does he have the right? Absolutely. Should he exercise it in his position, as part of this organization, in this particular race? I don't think so, personally. Why not? Hurt feels?
Mr. WEO Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 so rex is being called out by some , yet taking a knee during the anthem, just exercising ""their right to do so".. guess it all boils down to which agenda fits ones niche' Who really cares. It's all for our entertainment anyway.
dwight in philly Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 Who really cares. It's all for our entertainment anyway. i agree until it becomes a bone of contention.
PolishDave Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 Some people (even some Americans) think Hitler was a cool dude. Some people (Iranians mostly) think the holocaust never happened. Some people liked Saddam Hussein so much that they elected an American president who shared the same name Hussein. I don't support any of these ideas. I just wanted to throw them out there into this thread to attempt to further fuel the flames that are already cranking around here. Keep it up. I am enjoying the laughs. Only in America baby! On a side note.....why is it you only really see men arguing about politics and rarely ever see women publicly arguing about it?
BringBackOrton Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 What is the title of this thread: "Report: Bills locker room issues due to politics" What is the title of the PFT article? "Bills reportedly have a Trump-related schism" . Clickbait headlines aren't Rex specific.
dwight in philly Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 Some people (even some Americans) think Hitler was a cool dude. Some people (Iranians mostly) think the holocaust never happened. Some people liked Saddam Hussein so much that they elected an American president who shared the same name Hussein. I don't support any of these ideas. I just wanted to throw them out there into this thread to attempt to further fuel the flames that are already cranking around here. Keep it up. I am enjoying the laughs. Only in America baby! On a side note.....why is it you only really see men arguing about politics and rarely ever see women publicly arguing about it? i think the holocaust happened, and hitler was despicable, to say the least.. as for electing obama? because of the name "hussein" not so much.. i think he was elected because people are not that informed.. JMHO!
jms62 Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 A smart coach would have realized how much of a lightening Rod Trump is and how he is disliked by the black community and made the decision to stay out of the political discussion.
dwight in philly Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 A smart coach would have realized how much of a lightening Rod Trump is and how he is disliked by the black community and made the decision to stay out of the political discussion. do you have any proof that "Trump is and how he is disliked by the black community " or is it heresay? an opinion?
BringBackOrton Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 A smart coach would have realized how much of a lightening Rod Trump is and how he is disliked by the black community and made the decision to stay out of the political discussion. Maybe that coach decided that the President of our nation is more important than football.
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