BringBackFergy Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 In theory, I dont like it. But in practice, it has been working so well that I cant complain. Seems like Lynn understands how to find a good balance and use it only when appropriate. Quite interesting to see hw well players can play when they are on the same page with their coaches. It's the same playbook as they had with Roman, but Lynn is much more in sync with what the players see and want to run as well. And that really is what team work is all about. You dont necessarily have to have the most talented players, but if you can get everyone rowing in the same direction at the same time, you'll be practically unbeatable. Yes. And if we run it 2-3 times per game, opponents have to prepare for it, respond to it, align their defense accordingly thinking it is a run. The game at home vs. the Pats may be the perfect time to pass the ball from the wildcat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 I read somewhere (maybe here) that the backs like getting the ball a few yards deeper so they can see the field and holes better. The Wildcat helps with that and avoids a handoff that takes precious fractions of seconds for holes to close. I agree to use it judiciously, but don't abandon something that works. well said....McCoy seemed to be able to pick his spots well in this...I don't like it either and think it would be easy to stop.....but just because you know the play doesn't mean it can't be successful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 No problems with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 I think they should try a pass from it and see what happens... Might make the Def's hesitate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 My favorite thing is we use it when it's obvious were going to run anyway. We're going to see 8 in the box anyway. The advantage goes to us with the extra blocker..... when everyone knows were going good to run. Lynn uses it in a practical manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Hate it. I wanted to reach into my TV and punch Lynn. It is a dated gimmick that you almost never see in the NFL anymore. Running it once is bad enough. Run it 3 or 4 times, and I wonder about his ability to be an OC. It seemed to work pretty well. They got good yardage every time they ran it. I think it's OK to use like they did yesterday, 3 or 4 times a game as long as it continues to work for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 its a tremendous play in short yardage it's virtually impossible to stop for a loss, and they had great success with it yesterday. I'm not big on it generally but if it works run it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2ITRich Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 I have to be honest, I have never liked the Wildcat. Seems like a waste if you don't at least throw occasionally. If you really plan to run... take Tyrod out and put in an extra blocker. That being said... Can someone provide an intelligent theory behind why this wildcat play is advantageous to a regular running play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drey Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 You can thank (or hate) David Lee for the Wildcat. After all, he was named "Innovator of the Year" by Sporting News in 2008 for it. I'm ok with it as long as it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCBoston Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 With any other QB, I'm not a fan, it's too predictable. I'm waiting for them to pitch it out to Tyrod, or run Tyrod in motion out of that formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikef272002 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 The idea of it from a no huddle/hurry up is interesting. Particularly if you get a favorable defensive set out there like a nickel against 12 personnel. We lined up in the same exact formation every time and just ran different plays from the same formation. This way the kids weren't confused where they should line up. I'd call the play from the side line with hand signals and the QB would yell out the play. If it was through the five hole he'd yell a number that ended in a five, such as 55, or 25. This way the defense didn't hear the same play getting called. (not hard to confuse 6th-8th grade defenders). The key was down blocking (blocking the guy to the left or right of you instead of straight head on blocking, it created big holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 If a play works, I don't care if it's the Wishbone. That Wildcat makes teams prepare for it, and it's valuable if only for that. What I like about it is that LeShady gets time to look for a hole, and then can hit it with speed. It's a lot better than those stupid shotgun handoffs where the RB is flat-flooted when he gets the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 The idea of it from a no huddle/hurry up is interesting. Particularly if you get a favorable defensive set out there like a nickel against 12 personnel. Exactly - TT lines up under center, sees something he likes/helps set blocking for the line and yells out a change and motions himself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsrhody Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 It seems to me they're using this as a set up to something else. Based on how much they ran it yesterday I'm guessing they have a plan to install some pass / option wrinkles that will hopefully catch a defense off guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 It should be noted David Lee is an expert on the wildcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 3, 2016 Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 It seems to me they're using this as a set up to something else. Based on how much they ran it yesterday I'm guessing they have a plan to install some pass / option wrinkles that will hopefully catch a defense off guard. i was thinking (hoping) that might be the case too. Showing it now to set up something for later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 i was thinking (hoping) that might be the case too. Showing it now to set up something for later. Speaking of setting things up- I thought that they were doing just that with Goodwin- setting up a double move, like a 5-7 yard out and break off to a fly... Maybe they were and just never needed to use it, who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 i was thinking (hoping) that might be the case too. Showing it now to set up something for later.I kept waiting for them to break out the passing play. Maybe we should save it for the rematch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 Haha - Vikings just ran the wildcat on MNF. Don't call it a comeback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Frankly, I was surprised at how effective it was against the Pats....like they didn't believe it was coming, and they didn't prepare for it. Expecially with gilly in there. Yeah, I couldn't believe it was working for us so well, but if it works, I'll take it! Won't expect it often in the future but it was an effective wrinkle in our plan yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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