YoloinOhio Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) Lynn has used the wildcat formation a bit last 2 weeks with McCoy and gillislee. Thoughts? I loath when OSU does it but somehow like the Bills version. Edited October 3, 2016 by YoloinOhio
Magox Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 Lynn has used the wildcat formation a bit last 2 weeks with McCoy and gillislee. Thoughts? I loath when OSU does it but somehow like the Bills version. When I see the Wildcat, I think to myself, this looks very easy to stop. Everyone knows they are going to run it, there really is not much of a threat at all that there will be a throw (so I think), and they should be able to stack it and stop it. Yet, we seem to be pretty damn effective at getting good yardage out of it, rather consistently.
Captain_Quint Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 He needs to do this once, maybe twice a game, and shelf it. It isnt a sustainable practice.
LabattBlue Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 Hate it. I wanted to reach into my TV and punch Lynn. It is a dated gimmick that you almost never see in the NFL anymore. Running it once is bad enough. Run it 3 or 4 times, and I wonder about his ability to be an OC.
YoloinOhio Posted October 3, 2016 Author Posted October 3, 2016 I think the OL does a nice job blocking for it. I don't think they will use it a ton going forward as I agree it's not sustainable, but it's something opponents need to spend time preparing for since no one else uses it (that I've seen).
Wayne Cubed Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 They ran it 8 times for 41 yards. It was effective especially the first time they ran it, Gillislee ran for 16 yards.
PromoTheRobot Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 Hate it. I wanted to reach into my TV and punch Lynn. It is a dated gimmick that you almost never see in the NFL anymore. Running it once is bad enough. Run it 3 or 4 times, and I wonder about his ability to be an OC.Why hate something that works? There are no Russian judges handing out style points.
Dave in Avon Lake now Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 I read somewhere (maybe here) that the backs like getting the ball a few yards deeper so they can see the field and holes better. The Wildcat helps with that and avoids a handoff that takes precious fractions of seconds for holes to close. I agree to use it judiciously, but don't abandon something that works.
bigK14094 Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 Frankly, I was surprised at how effective it was against the Pats....like they didn't believe it was coming, and they didn't prepare for it. Expecially with gilly in there.
mikef272002 Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) I actually did my own version of a wildcat with my youth football team (6th-8th graders). We had 12 plays out of it, 2 were pass plays. Everything could be done in a hurry up no huddle which is what I liked about it. You focus on one half of the field, our goal was to get 5 yards a play. We had the #1 offense 2 years in a row with it but I also had very athletic kids. Edited October 3, 2016 by mikef272002
DrDawkinstein Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 In theory, I dont like it. But in practice, it has been working so well that I cant complain. Seems like Lynn understands how to find a good balance and use it only when appropriate. Quite interesting to see hw well players can play when they are on the same page with their coaches. It's the same playbook as they had with Roman, but Lynn is much more in sync with what the players see and want to run as well. And that really is what team work is all about. You dont necessarily have to have the most talented players, but if you can get everyone rowing in the same direction at the same time, you'll be practically unbeatable.
MAJBobby Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 Seems to have been effective so far this year and i think it will continue to be as long as they only run it a couple times a game.
mikef272002 Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 Seems to have been effective so far this year and i think it will continue to be as long as they only run it a couple times a game. I agree.. Running it 2-4 times a game is plenty. I don't know how many times they ran it yesterday but it seemed like a good amount to run it.. 4 times maybe?
YattaOkasan Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 I actually did my own version of a wildcat with my youth football team (6th-8th graders). We had 12 plays out of it, 2 were pass plays. Everything could be done in a hurry up no huddle which is what I liked about it. You focus on one half of the field, our goal was to get 5 yards a play. We had the #1 offense 2 years in a row with it but I also had very athletic kids. The idea of it from a no huddle/hurry up is interesting. Particularly if you get a favorable defensive set out there like a nickel against 12 personnel.
Nanker Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 In theory, I dont like it. But in practice, it has been working so well that I cant complain. Seems like Lynn understands how to find a good balance and use it only when appropriate. Quite interesting to see hw well players can play when they are on the same page with their coaches. It's the same playbook as they had with Roman, but Lynn is much more in sync with what the players see and want to run as well. And that really is what team work is all about. You dont necessarily have to have the most talented players, but if you can get everyone rowing in the same direction at the same time, you'll be practically unbeatable. +1 I have to admit at being fooled by Roman. I thought he was going to be really good here. But he bombed. I think his playbook was good, but he couldn't call a game worth a damn more than half the time.
jimmy10 Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 I think the OL does a nice job blocking for it. I don't think they will use it a ton going forward as I agree it's not sustainable, but it's something opponents need to spend time preparing for since no one else uses it (that I've seen). Agreed. It's a wrinkle, not a pillar, of the offense. Give other teams as much to worry about as possible. I'm not an X's and O's guy, but can the wildcat be used to set up a pass? Obviously there's risks in having your RB throw the ball, but a less risky dump-off to the side or something seems like it would really catch the defense by surprise.
Fadingpain Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 Once in a while as a change-up pitch I'm fine with it. As some type of sustained systematic approach to offense? Of course not.
MAJBobby Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 Agreed. It's a wrinkle, not a pillar, of the offense. Give other teams as much to worry about as possible. I'm not an X's and O's guy, but can the wildcat be used to set up a pass? Obviously there's risks in having your RB throw the ball, but a less risky dump-off to the side or something seems like it would really catch the defense by surprise. Yes see what makes it able to expand more than it is right now is because Taylor stays on the field and is a weapon. Run the Jet sweep motion with Taylor, also can have Shady hand it to Taylor and now you have the run pass option because you mobile QB has the Ball in his hands as well.
Big Turk Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 When I see the Wildcat, I think to myself, this looks very easy to stop. Everyone knows they are going to run it, there really is not much of a threat at all that there will be a throw (so I think), and they should be able to stack it and stop it. Yet, we seem to be pretty damn effective at getting good yardage out of it, rather consistently. Yeah it's being blocked up exceptionally well...have gained at least 4-5 yards every time I think
Blokestradamus Posted October 3, 2016 Posted October 3, 2016 Looks pretty good to me! https://gfycat.com/OrganicWelllitAmericanbittern
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