Tenhigh Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 And again go back and look at the shoutbox. I made 1 comment then get called names, dont know what i am talking about. So when i get called out i defend my point people dont want me to defend my point during a game. News flash dont @ me. But guess you opinion is infallible and i an an idiot that knows nothing ans need to take direction on what to say and how to say it from a Screen Name. It is a free country you dont like what i write get out of my threads or dont @ me in the shoutbox. See how that works so get off yur high horse. Really ok. I know what i talked about. In a QB thread talked about QB In Offense thread talked about O and QB Made a defense thread Talked about college players Was critical of coaching in multiple coaching threads. But people want to keep talking about my issues with Taylor. LOL, you racked up 458 posts in 10 days.
jms62 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 If you're going to give a realistic assessment of Taylor's performances, be prepared to get flamed for it. I learned just the other day, right here in the Shoutbox, that I am a racist because I don't think Tyrod Taylor is a good QB. I'm still saddened to learn of my racist ways. And shocked. Methinks thou dost protest too much.
MAJBobby Posted September 26, 2016 Author Posted September 26, 2016 LOL, you racked up 458 posts in 10 days. And that is an issue. So i have decided to post about football. My family is living in another State because of my job, so i talk about football. To spend my time. Sorry that offends people
Solomon Grundy Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 And that is an issue. So i have decided to post about football. My family is living in another State because of my job, so i talk about football. To spend my time. Sorry that offends people Geez MAJBobby, I'm just glad EJ Manuel wasn't QBing. I wonder how many people would've been critical of your post then?
Rocky Landing Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 Geez MAJBobby, I'm just glad EJ Manuel wasn't QBing. I wonder how many people would've been critical of your post then? Same number. Just different people.
Original Byrd Man Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 I want to turn over a new leaf today and look at your posts more objectively - I think the big key here is....stop thinking and start being football players on the O side of the ball. - Agreed on Woods in the blocking game....the unfortunate thing is if we want to take that next step we need a WR that can be BOTH a threat and a blocker....I still think this team needs to keep looking for that great TE that can do this and run 2 TE formations. - Regarding Felton....someone must have checked the fan suggestion box on Felton where we have been sending in how much Felton was getting paid as opposed to how much he was getting utilized....the only nit pik I have is I would like to see him get the ball more in short yardage situations as the up back.......and I think my boy Johnathan WIlliams got ONE carry the whole game.....please use him more Lynn - Im just gonna skip QB for now....we dont agree....that is fine we dont have to agree - Marcel is back the week after next....him and Kyle Williams are going to be a force on this DL....with Marcel demanding most of the attention other guys should flourish. - Gotta give credit to Rob Ryan and his work with the LB's......he might be a lousy DC....but he appears to be a good positional coach - Big rebound game for our DB's....I was worried about Darby being out but they overcame that nicely....the Cards have one of the better sets of pass catchers in the entire NFL - Aside from Carp's missed field goal....this unit really did dominate the game yesterday I do not want to see Felton carry the ball. He has one carry and one lost fumble. We have enough options at running back. Also Woods can be a viable option in the passing game if given more of an opportunity.
3rdand12 Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 Ok gonna get back to reviewing games. Disclaimer this is from my eye so I know not everyone will agree with what I saw, I have watched the game a couple times so this is what I get out of it. I always try to break it down by position groups, and while talking position groups I will highlight a couple players I am sure that stood out to me. So without further delay here it is, hope you all enjoy the breakdown. Offense OL Going to start here, because this is where I think Lynn's approach helped the most. This unit had a great game. The difference I saw there was a lot more firing off the ball and a lot less catching than in the previous weeks. I point that to the simplified blocking concepts. Yes, Richie was still pulling (as he should he is one of the best at it), but that is not what I am referring too. Roman runs a multiple concept blocking scheme, and he loves having his OL "out think" a scheme. In his concepts the 1st couple weeks the OL was responsible for a lot of "passing off" between blockers, more of a Zone scheme than a power scheme. Lynn simplified all that and went with strict power, beat the man in front of you, and the OL responded with a great game. This was Millers best game as a Pro as well, and I think that has to be because is was able to just play instead of think and play. The same thing went in pass pro, there was little to know breakdowns because of communication issues during passing off like there was with Roman. Obviously, this was the best game of the year for the OL, and thinking back to last year as well I cant think of many better from them last year as well. Grade: A WR/TE One of the harder groups to talk about without looking at an All 22, but I will talk about a couple things I was able to notice from the TV Broadcast. I think Powell looks like he can be a solid No 3 WR this year, when all are healthy I would rather have him on the field than Salas, but that said I think his ceiling will be a Solid WR2 if he continues. I liked him since offseason. He has a wiggle that will create separation and has shown above AVG hands. There are some issues with his routes right now, but that will come. One play I can think of specifically was the Drive that ended in a FG, when he was running the slant and Woods was running a flag (great route Combo BTW). He rounded off his slant and instead of pushing that route to the goal-line he bent it inside too much running that slant to shallow, add that to the Jump (for no reason) there was no way he was getting in the endzone. That was not the only route I seen him round off either. Also I have to talk about Woods, I know he gets beat on a lot, however Shady does not rip off those Big Runs without Woods Blocking downfield. One of the Best Blocking WRs I have seen since Ward. As a group there was some drops from this unit, and Clay was also invisible again but I will talk about that a little later. Grade: B- RBs This was another change with the new OC. Felton was playing a ton, and performed. He was very important in the success of the run game. Also for those that say Shady cannot excel in a power blocking scheme, well he can, his issue is he has to trust what he sees, and turn it up. He did bounce a couple times, but when he stays with the scheme and alley and hits that hole hard he can be gone. My issue with Shady though this week was the fumble (yes it didn't hurt us) but man the entire game he was asking for that, he really carries the ball loose and away from his body. Finally I think it is very telling that J. Williams and Gillislee had touches, who didn't Bush. I think it is time to move on from Bush and pick up another WR, now that Williams is healthy work with the Roster management and get another WR, specially when you have Watkins and Salas missing time. Nitpick time was the safety, I am not sure of that specific playcall, you are at the 1, sneak it a bit need more room, or at least have your power back on the field with Williams. Grade B+ (downgraded because of how Shady had the ball out there for the taking all game). QB For those that don't like to read critique of Taylor skip this paragraph and move on. But I will end with some goods I saw from him. First going back to what I said in the WR/TE grouping about Clay being invisible. I have to wait until I see the All 22, but what I do know right now is Taylor had 5 (I was generous with two because they were crossing routes at the numbers that he threw right out of the break so I gave him credit here because they were middle breaking routes), NFL has him logged at 3 throws over the middle. Out of those 5 throws he attempted 0 over 10 yards. Why is that important because it is that area of the field that Clay works, just like any TE.) This is something not only I but the Bills have said he needs to improve on, which so far this year he has not. When you don't use this area of the field and only throw the alleys downfield when you don't hit those alleys you end up with a 3.8 YPA number (not sustainable in todays NFL). Ghost Pressure continues to effect him, there was 6 times I counted that Taylor reacted to pressure that was not there, and either rushed a throw, did not step into the pocket or just flushed. Again he still need to dramatically improve his pocket presence. Last thing on the bads is his mechanics, I just don't understand where this flat foot throws in the pocket have come from, they have sparked up ALOT this year compared to last, this mechanical breakdown makes him erratic in any NFL type throw, deep out specifically because he wont throw that 15 yard Dig. But it wasn't all bad with Tyrod, yes his running is a weapon and he did look quicker in this game than he has the other two. However I would like to use that mobility to make a throw and less about his entire game. I would rather not have him 7-10 times on designed runs. But yes it is an asset. I Did not see him change a play at the line (like Lynn said he would), but that doesn't mean he wasn't reading the defense pre-snap better. I think he did improve there then in the last 2 weeks (still has a ways to go), but one play that sticks out to me is the same one I mentioned about with Powell. In the Redzone on third down you know that Flag, Slant route concept the 1st read is always the Flag (it was open by the way), but that wasn't a miss by Taylor. What happened at the line he knew what the protection scheme was, identified that he was going to have a free runner and adjusted his read so Powell (Slant) became the hot. It was open and he threw it accounting for the free rusher, that was exactly what you want your QB to do. Another play that I loved what I saw was late in the 4th QTR, the completion on the wheel route to O'Leary. What happened there, was he knew what the route was at the line of Scrimmage he knew it was going to be open, based off what he saw, so in his drop he didn't look at O'Leary instead eyes downfield at the safety, only moved those eyes late to find O'Leary and throw a perfect ball in stride to him. Those are what I want to seem more of from him, he shows he can do it at times, I want to see it consistent. Grade: B- Defense DL I think he have a very talented DL, and Kyle Williams just doesn't show any sign of him slowing down. I really can wait to see what this rotation does with Dareus and Shaq in it, but that is still weeks away. They were disruptive from jump, getting pressure on Carson even when they only rushed 3 and 4. Hughes is just unblockable on his twists and such. Seeing I am on Hughes, the dumb penalties I hate (taking Carsons Head off when he was already on the ground), but I can live with the trying to time snap penalties like his offside. I am not going to hate on him for that because that is one of his best assets that first step and like with Bruce in the 90s sometimes you are gonna guess wrong. However this group is night and day better than it was last season, I know it is early in this season but through 3 games they have played very well (except when Rex went into full blown rush 3 only mode like later in the game and seems like most of the Jets game). Very Happy with this group so far this year. Grade: A LB A group that was the biggest question mark coming into the season, Preston was Bad last year, Ragland Hurt, LBers signed and cut etc. But through three games they have played very well. The Brown Brothers have not faltered in both their run fits or their pass responsibilities. I knew coming into season Zach was going to help that pass coverage side that is what he has been very good at, but man he has turned into a complete 3 Down LBers, meaning Spikes never needs to be on the field even in obvious run downs, and that is very good as it means you don't have to change personnel so much and can limit the communication mistakes. He logged 12 tackles and 10 solo. Preston has taken control of this defense and found his game again, the same game that During the year Kiko was it was realized Kiko was expendable. I know many, including myself, don't like the Rob Ryan hire, however he works with the LBers and cant deny that they are playing lights out right now. Grade: A DB: Probably the group that needed a big game after the Jets game and they more than delivered and that being down Darby as well. This group held a very good vertical passing game that features Big WRs to 0 TDs and also gave the Bills 4 Picks. Casron was just over 50% completions and only had 5.74 YPA. There were a couple of drops by their WRs, however it seemed every throw was contested. This was a very good game and was needed because they were beaten down after the Jets game. Gilmore showed again that he really is the best CB on this team (does he deserve big money that is a different conversation for a different day). Also Corey Graham who I have been critical of came away with a big game as well. However there were some bad plays, there were at least 3 dropped interceptions and the one that stands out the most to me was Robey's as that likely would have been a pick 6 and he knew it as well, which likely can to the reason for the pick going right through is hands. Grade: A STs OOO Carp can we stop missing the XP, it obviously did not come back to hurt us, but man stop, and why is your alignment all the way on the hash during XP, it seems that is one of your issues. And this was Schmidts worse game I have seen him as a Bills punting. I am not sure if there was a lot of wind or something but he didn't have a good game either. Finally and last but not least Returns, it is Brandon Tate's job. I expect to see no one back there again unless he gets hurt, meaning say bye bye Reggie this was the reason you were signed and you lost that job. Ok that is my thoughts on this game. Feel free to comment. I am always here for a discussion and to learn more about football. Homer write up. Kudos on the Lithium! Damn your roll !!
Agent 91 Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 If you're going to give a realistic assessment of Taylor's performances, be prepared to get flamed for it. I learned just the other day, right here in the Shoutbox, that I am a racist because I don't think Tyrod Taylor is a good QB. I'm still saddened to learn of my racist ways. And shocked. What the heck did you say to get labeled a racist?
Agent 91 Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 Basically keep writing what you are writing. Same stuff happened with Manuel and Orton. People don't realize this is the monster they created due to no patience. I honestly think this is Tyrods last year her due to the price tag. But its been a long time since we have had someone we can depend on. He didn't have a good day... as a qb. But he is fun to watch when he takes off. You are right to have your own opinion as others are right to share theirs. Like someone else said most people on here just talk mess or make jokes I still don't get. But its all fun There are people here you would swear work for the scouting department analytics department or even the AV team. Thats what makes this board great. We all argue we all read. And we all keep coming back. Keep it up man
Augie Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 Nice break down. But momentum is real. (Sorry but that's not questionable.)
BADOLBILZ Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 Really like your work MAJBobby. Don't let the miserable homers who are looking for someone to take their frustration out on bother you. When the points are hitting too close to home it disrupts their fantasy so they will want to chase you off. Ignore them or give them a smack or two upside the head or just laugh at their illogical takes but don't let that ruin the objective of talking football. Don't compromise, tell it like you see it.
Tenhigh Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 Homer write up. Damn your roll !! Was curious if anyone picked up on that...
Gugny Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 What the heck did you say to get labeled a racist? I said that I didn't think Tyrod Taylor is a good QB. Someone then told me that it was "obvious" that there's "obviously more to my dislike for Taylor than just football." Then made more accusations, saying that I don't like him because he's black. Well, I guess I better say at least ONE of our QBs is good, eh?? I then politely (of course) pointed out to him that I am a Puerto Rican man who also could not/cannot stand Doug Flutie (he's white), at which point the other gentleman shut his pie hole.
Tenhigh Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 Really like your work MAJBobby. Don't let the miserable homers who are looking for someone to take their frustration out on bother you. When the points are hitting too close to home it disrupts their fantasy so they will want to chase you off. Ignore them or give them a smack or two upside the head or just laugh at their illogical takes but don't let that ruin the objective of talking football. Don't compromise, tell it like you see it. Easy with the head slap talk, tough guy. No one is telling Bobby to be less objective, we are just laughing at the 180 he has done over the last week, and giving him grief for the fact that he averaged 1.79 posts per second, mostly saying the same thing (prior to Sunday afternoon). I dont think you will find a fan on this board who will say that TT has been what was hoped he would be thru 3 weeks. And Baldol calling someone else miserable? Come on, guy, even you have to admit the irony there...
jms62 Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 I said that I didn't think Tyrod Taylor is a good QB. Someone then told me that it was "obvious" that there's "obviously more to my dislike for Taylor than just football." Then made more accusations, saying that I don't like him because he's black. Well, I guess I better say at least ONE of our QBs is good, eh?? I then politely (of course) pointed out to him that I am a Puerto Rican man who also could not/cannot stand Doug Flutie (he's white), at which point the other gentleman shut his pie hole. That someone asked that it seemed based upon you unrelenting crusade against Tyrod whether you ever will accept him as the face of this organization. At that point you are the one that kept saying over and over that you were accused of being a racist. Nice revisionist history.... Hate on dude looking forward to your 100 posts in the Shout box in your continued crusade against Tyrod as we kick the **** out of the Patriots.
The Poojer Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 I feel your pain. Been there done that(I drank more), it kinda sucks! And that is an issue. So i have decided to post about football. My family is living in another State because of my job, so i talk about football. To spend my time.Sorry that offends people
BADOLBILZ Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 Easy with the head slap talk, tough guy. No one is telling Bobby to be less objective, we are just laughing at the 180 he has done over the last week, and giving him grief for the fact that he averaged 1.79 posts per second, mostly saying the same thing (prior to Sunday afternoon). I dont think you will find a fan on this board who will say that TT has been what was hoped he would be thru 3 weeks. And Baldol calling someone else miserable? Come on, guy, even you have to admit the irony there... I'm just trying to encourage MAJBobby to take the cackling hens of *optimism* with a grain of salt. I've been able to stay here for 20 years and still post my opinions because: A) I don't take it too seriously.........I know it's a game and entertainment and I can see the humor even in the futility. B) I'm not afraid to give it back and scorch a fool in lieu of discussion when the situation calls for it...........rather than just take my ball and go home. But most people won't put up with that sh*t when they just want to talk football and don't want to have to be part of a circle jerk/clique to earn the right to speak. It's been said many times........but a lot of very good content providers here have been run off by people who sell themselves as optimists but are really people who are hurt by the truth and/or resent how others are more able to cope with it. When a good content poster like MAJBobby comes along I like to see them encouraged........not barraged by nonsense. We are re-assembling a nice group of informed, thoughtful posters who are willing to share their takes and encourage discussion.............to the point where I've even encouraged some of the good posters who've left to come back and take a look.........let's keep it that way and build on it rather than chasing them off by f*cking with them when they just want to talk about the game.
dave mcbride Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 I'm just trying to encourage MAJBobby to take the cackling hens of *optimism* with a grain of salt. I've been able to stay here for 20 years and still post my opinions because: A) I don't take it too seriously.........I know it's a game and entertainment and I can see the humor even in the futility. B) I'm not afraid to give it back and scorch a fool in lieu of discussion when the situation calls for it...........rather than just take my ball and go home. But most people won't put up with that sh*t when they just want to talk football and don't want to have to be part of a circle jerk/clique to earn the right to speak. It's been said many times........but a lot of very good content providers here have been run off by people who sell themselves as optimists but are really people who are hurt by the truth and/or resent how others are more able to cope with it. When a good content poster like MAJBobby comes along I like to see them encouraged........not barraged by nonsense. We are re-assembling a nice group of informed, thoughtful posters who are willing to share their takes and encourage discussion.............to the point where I've even encouraged some of the good posters who've left to come back and take a look.........let's keep it that way and build on it rather than chasing them off by f*cking with them when they just want to talk about the game. Hear, hear.
NoSaint Posted September 27, 2016 Posted September 27, 2016 I'm just trying to encourage MAJBobby to take the cackling hens of *optimism* with a grain of salt. I've been able to stay here for 20 years and still post my opinions because: A) I don't take it too seriously.........I know it's a game and entertainment and I can see the humor even in the futility. B) I'm not afraid to give it back and scorch a fool in lieu of discussion when the situation calls for it...........rather than just take my ball and go home. But most people won't put up with that sh*t when they just want to talk football and don't want to have to be part of a circle jerk/clique to earn the right to speak. It's been said many times........but a lot of very good content providers here have been run off by people who sell themselves as optimists but are really people who are hurt by the truth and/or resent how others are more able to cope with it. When a good content poster like MAJBobby comes along I like to see them encouraged........not barraged by nonsense. We are re-assembling a nice group of informed, thoughtful posters who are willing to share their takes and encourage discussion.............to the point where I've even encouraged some of the good posters who've left to come back and take a look.........let's keep it that way and build on it rather than chasing them off by f*cking with them when they just want to talk about the game. i give some jokes here and there about your temperament here but i agree that we went through a stretch where we lost a lot of guys that provided insight into the game instead of focusing on the soap opera of it all.... and ive likewise noticed a lot better content coming through recently. there were a few that stuck around that i appreciated reading, but its nice to come here and get some deeper stats, and more extensive play and technique breakdown and feel like i am learning some more again. bobby posted a lot last week but when you are on the wrong side of the crowd its easy to shoot off a lot of repetitive content in an effort to reply to the masses. especially when youve taken the time to pull some opinions together and want to defend them but are kind of solo.
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