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Debate Round I  

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  1. 1. Who won

    • Clinton
      23
    • Trump
      17
  2. 2. Did the first debate affect your vote

    • Yes - I was leaning Trump but am now leaning Clinton
      2
    • Yes - I was leaning Clinton but am now leaning Trump
      0
    • Yes - I was leaning Clinton but am now leaning 3rd Party
      0
    • Yes - I was leaning Trump but am now leaning 3rd Party
      0
    • Yes - I was leaning 3rd Party but am now leaning Clinton
      2
    • Yes - I was leaning 3rd Party but am now leaning Trump
      2
    • No - I was leaning Clinton and still am
      7
    • No - I was leaning Trump and still am
      15
    • No - I was leaning 3rd Party and still am
      12


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There is no way with amnesty for (11 million?) illegal aliens, millions of (1,2...5?) new Muslims, and the current state of race relations, that it's just going to be that simple, and "business as usual". How do you think these situations will evolve under Hillary?

 

Given the Reps control the Senate, amnesty, even if she wanted it, would never pass. That said, I'm not against immigration reform and a path to amnesty. Race relations will simmer. They rise and fall every few years. They will be fine under Clinton.

 

Last night showed how ill-equipped Trump is to handle race relations. When asked about how to cure the racial divide, Trump answered "Two words: Law and order." Given the current hot topic in race relations is white police shootings of civilians, his answer shows a terrible understanding of what's fueling the issue.

 

His better answer would have been "The best way to help race relations is to raise people out of poverty and improve quality of life. In business I created x htousand jobs and helped people raise their incomes so I will help ...yada yada."

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His better answer would have been "The best way to help race relations is to raise people out of poverty and improve quality of life. In business I created x htousand jobs and helped people raise their incomes so I will help ...yada yada."

 

A smart tenth grader would have handled the softballs better than the plump orange. She handed him so many openings and he just failed.

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I brought up the Johnson-Aleppo reference 2x already in this thread.

 

I can see how you fit in the with Trump supporters.

 

So then, you're voting Jill Stein?

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Given the Reps control the Senate, amnesty, even if she wanted it, would never pass. That said, I'm not against immigration reform and a path to amnesty. Race relations will simmer. They rise and fall every few years. They will be fine under Clinton.

 

Last night showed how ill-equipped Trump is to handle race relations. When asked about how to cure the racial divide, Trump answered "Two words: Law and order." Given the current hot topic in race relations is white police shootings of civilians, his answer shows a terrible understanding of what's fueling the issue.

 

His better answer would have been "The best way to help race relations is to raise people out of poverty and improve quality of life. In business I created x htousand jobs and helped people raise their incomes so I will help ...yada yada."

 

He wasn't good. He should have just yada yada-ed, but he can't help himself.

 

I don't agree that things will just continue as is. There is a coordinated effort to bring Muslim's into Western Society. It's not working, and is pushing the citizens in these countries to support the Far-Right. It's not just going to go away.

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You get your MD from staying at the Holiday Inn Express?

 

Tell me who you're voting for then, you simp. It's an easy question, even for you.

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Tell me who you're voting for then, you simp. It's an easy question, even for you.

 

I thought he was upfront that at this point, he's voting for Johnson

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I thought he was upfront that at this point, he's voting for Johnson

 

That's what I thought. Which makes the "LIAR should ask Trump..." make him sound like a moron.

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Given the Reps control the Senate, amnesty, even if she wanted it, would never pass. That said, I'm not against immigration reform and a path to amnesty. Race relations will simmer. They rise and fall every few years. They will be fine under Clinton.

 

Last night showed how ill-equipped Trump is to handle race relations. When asked about how to cure the racial divide, Trump answered "Two words: Law and order." Given the current hot topic in race relations is white police shootings of civilians, his answer shows a terrible understanding of what's fueling the issue.

 

His better answer would have been "The best way to help race relations is to raise people out of poverty and improve quality of life. In business I created x htousand jobs and helped people raise their incomes so I will help ...yada yada."

 

Funny, but many of those shootings were by Police officers that were black or hispanic . I'm so glad Trump didn't cave to that false narrative fueled by the media.

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Funny, but many of those shootings were by Police officers that were black or hispanic . I'm so glad Trump didn't cave to that false narrative fueled by the media.

Some are some are not. But the focal point of the tension has been the police shootings. So to come out and say "law and order" to the question of how the cure the racial divide is obtuse.

 

It's like answering "I am against child molesrers" to a question of how to improve schools, except Trump's answer even fueled the fire. He's just a moron.

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Wow. There are 16 idiots here that think Trump won the debate by coming unglued/unstable, interrupting, & sniffling every time he lied. Yikes. And that is just propping Clinton up behind a podium. Yeah, she won not because of what she did, but what he did by looking like an assclown. :lol:

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Wow. There are 16 idiots here that think Trump won the debate by coming unglued/unstable, interrupting, & sniffling every time he lied. Yikes. And that is just propping Clinton up behind a podium. Yeah, she won not because of what she did, but what he did by looking like an assclown. :lol:

It's alarming anyone could think he won. She has terrible ideas but as to winning the debate, how can there be any doubt?

 

The cyber security question! Jesus H.

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There is no way with amnesty for (11 million?) illegal aliens, millions of (1,2...5?) new Muslims, and the current state of race relations, that it's just going to be that simple, and "business as usual". How do you think these situations will evolve under Hillary?

Once hillary makes all the illegal invaders into U.S. citizens there will NEVER be a republican president again the demographics will have changed too much. It will cause the supreme court to get stacked with progressive activist judges who will legislate from the bench. The 1st amendment will go on the grounds of encouraged hate speech, a,d the 2nd amendment will be right after it. The 4th amendment will also be declared obselete for our own protection. We will be well on our well to being a full out totalitarian socialist police state regime.

 

That is the future of Hillary wins.

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Bahahahaha! Wait, aren't you voting for "duh, what is Aleppo?"

 

And his answer would be "the funny thing is, you know the answers and still !@#$ed everything up." Which ties into his "your experience is for ****."

 

 

You have the gall to criticize one dumbass comment from Johnson, yet you are one of the biggest Trump humpers on this board?

 

Really?

 

Really????

 

 

:w00t:

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Some are some are not. But the focal point of the tension has been the police shootings. So to come out and say "law and order" to the question of how the cure the racial divide is obtuse.

It's like answering "I am against child molesrers" to a question of how to improve schools, except Trump's answer even fueled the fire. He's just a moron.

Yea he should have said how cool black churches are.

 

That will fix the problem of hoodrats complaining because police are bothering them as they sell coke.

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So then, you're voting Jill Stein?

 

For being a Doc, you are one dim light bulb. It is clear as day to anyone who isn't a raging right wing partisan that Ben is a straight down the middle voter who would be inclined to vote for a R if that candidate showed himself to hold some moderate values.

 

That's what I thought. Which makes the "LIAR should ask Trump..." make him sound like a moron.

 

No, it makes YOU sound like the moron.

Funny, but many of those shootings were by Police officers that were black or hispanic . I'm so glad Trump didn't cave to that false narrative fueled by the media.

 

 

That's not the issue. It's about threading the needle. You can still side on the "Law and Order" argument, while expressing empathy for some of the concerns of the legitimate arguments being made from the other side.

 

You can admonish the trouble making rioters while being sympathetic to the concerns of others. Trump, didn't do that.

Once hillary makes all the illegal invaders

 

 

Yes, illegal invaders.

 

:rolleyes:

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Yes, illegal invaders.

 

:rolleyes:

 

Oh really? Then what would you call them?

 

They are breaking our laws. They did not follow our established immigration process. They are here illegally. They demand that we accomodate them. They fly the Mexican(or other country of origin) flag and denounce America. Look up the aztlan movement. Mexican citizens want a reconquista of their previously held land.

 

They want the southwest to be Mexico North.

 

Its a "peaceful" invasion. Period. Spare me the immigration nonsense.

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Oh really? Then what would you call them?

 

They are breaking our laws. They did not follow our established immigration process. They are here illegally. They demand that we accomodate them. They fly the Mexican(or other country of origin) flag and denounce America. Look up the aztlan movement. Mexican citizens want a reconquista of their previously held land.

 

They want the southwest to be Mexico North.

 

Its a "peaceful" invasion. Period. Spare me the immigration nonsense.

 

 

Yes, I'm sure you are well-versed within the Latino community of what they generally want out of life. :rolleyes:

 

I can find videos of virtually every single group, and find wacko extremists from within the right wing, left wing, African American's, Latino's, White's and what have you. That doesn't mean that's representative of each group. You are a right wing partisan, which means you get your news that helps prop up the right wing argument, which means they cherry pick certain bits of information to feed into their ignorant narrow views.

 

Left wing groups do the same thing. You guys are no different than one another in that you only propagate inaccurate views to help your push your narrow agenda's.

 

So you spare me your bull ****, because I see right through it. Unfortunately for you, you don't even know that you are just one of the many sheep that these disseminators of elephant **** have spoon fed you.

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Oh really? Then what would you call them?

 

They are breaking our laws. They did not follow our established immigration process. They are here illegally. They demand that we accomodate them. They fly the Mexican(or other country of origin) flag and denounce America. Look up the aztlan movement. Mexican citizens want a reconquista of their previously held land.

 

They want the southwest to be Mexico North.

 

Its a "peaceful" invasion. Period. Spare me the immigration nonsense.

Most of what you say is straight from the paranoid whitey handbook. Illegal immigrants would mostly like to be living in certainty as part of America. A path to that goal that benefits both them and the US is in both our interests.

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Trump couldn't have been worse, it shoes how unprepared he is to lead this country. He let Hillary Clinton walk all over him then blamed it on his mic...

Oh really? Then what would you call them?

They are breaking our laws. They did not follow our established immigration process. They are here illegally. They demand that we accomodate them. They fly the Mexican(or other country of origin) flag and denounce America. Look up the aztlan movement. Mexican citizens want a reconquista of their previously held land.

They want the southwest to be Mexico North.

Its a "peaceful" invasion. Period. Spare me the immigration nonsense.

I am sorry but what Mexicans have you ever met? I don't think you ever even spoke to one in real life... The problem with voting is they let people like you do it. Edited by Beef Jerky
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