Jerry Jabber Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2016/9/19/12968536/buffalo-bills-pegula-rex-ryan-greg-roman-column In light of last week's events where Bills owners, Terry and Kim Pegula, met with Bills players to discuss what is wrong with the team without meeting with HC Rex Ryan, are they being too much "hands-on" with the team? While it's great that they are not just sitting around and hoping things get better, they are being proactive, but at the same time, the Pegula's do not have professional football experience such as a GM or coach would have. What also comes to mind is the Pegula's involvement in hiring Rex Ryan. It seems the decision to hire Rex was the Pegula's, shouldn't that have been the decision of the GM [Whaley]? I feel a big reason why the Bills never won a Superbowl and weren't more successful was due to Ralph Wilson being a meddling owner. Are we going to have to go through growing pains with the Pegula's while they and figure out how to run a successful football organization? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Honeymoon is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 History with them says no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2016/9/19/12968536/buffalo-bills-pegula-rex-ryan-greg-roman-column In light of last week's events where Bills owners, Terry and Kim Pegula, met with Bills players to discuss what is wrong with the team without meeting with HC Rex Ryan, are they being too much "hands-on" with the team? While it's great that they are not just sitting around and hoping things get better, they are being proactive, but at the same time, the Pegula's do not have professional football experience such as a GM or coach would have. What also comes to mind is the Pegula's involvement in hiring Rex Ryan. It seems the decision to hire Rex was the Pegula's, shouldn't that have been the decision of the GM [Whaley]? I feel a big reason why the Bills never won a Superbowl and weren't more successful was due to Ralph Wilson being a meddling owner. Are we going to have to go through growing pains with the Pegula's while they and figure out how to run a successful football organization? 1. Overblown, Pegulas talk to the players every week. Also talks to Rex and has been since last year, Terry likes being in the locker room with the players, and Rex knows this as well. 2. I am more concerned about Russ Brandon's involvement there. "Terry Don't let Rex out of the building" Does any one actually think after that Happens Whaley with only one year left on contract at the time is going to continue to fight for his guy. 3. So explain the lasy years when Ralph was hands off and the team sucked. At least when he was "meddling" they were going to the SB not missing the playoffs for 16 straight years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 if i paid 1.4 billion for a team i'd be calling plays from the owners box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I can't label them that way - yet. I hope I never feel that way, but let's face it, it's a matter of degrees. It's not an all or nothing thing. Every owner is involved to some degree, from very little to way too much (yeah, that's you Jerry Jones!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I can't label them that way - yet. I hope I never feel that way, but let's face it, it's a matter of degrees. It's not an all or nothing thing. Every owner is involved to some degree, from very little to way too much (yeah, that's you Jerry Jones!). Wait are you talking about Owner Jerry Jones or GM Jerry Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I would say no. If anything, I would say they haven't meddled enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) 1. Overblown, Pegulas talk to the players every week. Also talks to Rex and has been since last year, Terry likes being in the locker room with the players, and Rex knows this as well. 2. I am more concerned about Russ Brandon's involvement there. "Terry Don't let Rex out of the building" Does any one actually think after that Happens Whaley with only one year left on contract at the time is going to continue to fight for his guy. 3. So explain the lasy years when Ralph was hands off and the team sucked. At least when he was "meddling" they were going to the SB not missing the playoffs for 16 straight years. Ralph's meddling caused Chuck Knox to leave, Rob Johnson over Doug Flutie in the playoffs and caused John Butler to leave. Ralph had trust issues and he trusted the wrong people over the final 15 years he owned the team. You're right about Russ. Edited September 21, 2016 by Jerry Jabber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 The rule is whatever you do you should have done something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Whoever decided to hire Rex takes the blame for losing Schwartz as DC and switching to a over complex 3-4 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Whoever decided to hire Rex takes the blame for losing Schwartz as DC and switching to a over complex 3-4 . See my Post above. Do not lex Rex leave the building Look at this influence Russ has. Gonna post parts of the transcript from Rex Ryan introductory PC. Q: I want to direct this question though to Terry. A big splash with this hire and a lot of what has been reported in terms of it being a record deal for the Bills to make. From that, a lot of people have concluded that maybe the structure of the Bills’ hierarchy will change accordingly. Can you give us a sense of how this is going to work now: The reporting situation with the four of you there. TP: Rex, Russ, and Doug will report to Kim and myself and that’s the way we’re going to have it moving forward. I believe in everyone…I think I’ve said this in the past: my style of business is that no one should be afraid to say anything so we will welcome input from anybody; the coach, the GM, the President, myself, Kim and that’s how we’re going to move forward. You should never be afraid to say anything. I don’t care if it’s sports or other business. RB: One of things, Vic, on that just so we can answer your question so we can put this to bed also: when it comes to the fifty-three and player personnel, that’s under the purview of Doug Whaley, the game-day roster and the coaching staff is obviously Coach Ryan and I will have business ops and administration ops and football administration budgets, but as Terry said earlier and as Coach said, it’s not only one direction, it’s one mindset and we’ll be in lock-step in everything that we do as an organization. ----- Why was he talking wasn't this about football???? TP: And I might add that like I said when we went through this process, we went into it open-minded. We interviewed some bright, young coaches and some veteran coaches and Doug and Russ obviously had been through this before a few years ago. Like I said, when we meet the right guy, you’ll know it. When we finally talked to Rex and looked at that staff that he put together, I really don’t think that the Buffalo Bills at 9-7, and I really believe two plays away from possibly being 11-5, needed to have a young coach standing in their locker room. I thought we needed to go to somebody who’d done it before and if you look at the record of almost every coach like Rex just mentioned it, new coaches fail generally in their first job and I’m not saying that all the new coaches that are going to get hired are going to fail, but it’s more happening in that direction than it is for them to be successful…and Greg Roman by the way, Rex said it: just look at his resume. ----- Same Talking point Brandon has used in the past. We just felt that he was our guy and trust me, we had some pretty impressive people that we felt could the Bills coach, but we said, ‘Hey, let’s go after Rex.’ Russ told me, ‘Don’t let him out of the building.'” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Only in Buffalo would the Marketing guy have any say in 1. Who the Football Coach is. 2. And in control of football administration Budgets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 if i paid 1.4 billion for a team i'd be calling plays from the owners box Screw that - star QB/Owner/OC/Head Coach/GM/ FUTURE HALL OF FAMER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 No, there is a vast difference between an actively involved owner and a "meddling" owner. Just like there is a difference between the Roman firing being "all" Rex's decision versus "ultimately" Rex's decision. But such important subtleties are usually lost on a fanbase hellbent on finding something to be upset about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Honeymoon is over. I really don't know at this point if they are meddling, but you are absolutely correct, the honeymoon is over. It is time to burn down this dysfunctional organization with a losing culture - scouting, GM, everyone and start over. Go out and find a football czar, not a retread but a younger model; look what the Cowboys did in 1989! Screw that - star QB/Owner/OC/Head Coach/GM/ FUTURE HALL OF FAMER Got a valid point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 if you own a business (which is what this is) and your leadership/management team is failing, you have every right to do whatever needs to get done to right the ship. it's your money. where does this idea come from that you just buy a $2B team, put leaders in place and trust the process?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Letting Schwartz walk and destroying the 4th ranked defense - pure incompetence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Only in Buffalo would the Marketing guy have any say in 1. Who the Football Coach is. 2. And in control of football administration Budgets are you referring to Brandon? because he's the President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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