Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Not tough, but I do almost have a little sympathy for them. They are stuck with a crap coach who hasn't been able to fully utilize all the talent on the roster aside from the Super Bowl season. Sounds a little like what some think is happening here. There is no way this team shouldn't be better. They have failed to reach their potential the last several years. Aaron Rodgers is their QB for crying out loud They have far more talent then us, although I know plenty of posters who would disagree. They should have gone a lot father than they have in recent seasons. I'll take their suffering over ours
Buftex Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 I just happened to hear Colin Cowherd on the radio yesterday morning (I hate Cowherd), but he brought up an interesting stat...Aaron Rogers has not had a game with a QB rating over 100 since week 6 of last season. That is a long streak (12 games) for a QB of his caliber. I remember late last season, a buddy of mine, a die-hard Packers fan, after a loss said that he thought "Rogers has lost it. I don't think he is going to be the same QB he was before". I thought he was joking, or at least being over dramatic. Of course, being a Bills fan, my immediate reaction was "I will trade you any player, pair or trio on the Bills roster" for him...and while I would still make that deal, I wonder if he was on to something...rumors of Mike McCarthy starting to get frustrated with him for not making the plays that are there to be made...not saying the Packers or Rodgers are not an upper tier team, still....but it is interesting. Packers fans must appreciate Jordy Nelson all the more...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 I just happened to hear Colin Cowherd on the radio yesterday morning (I hate Cowherd), but he brought up an interesting stat...Aaron Rogers has not had a game with a QB rating over 100 since week 6 of last season. That is a long streak (12 games) for a QB of his caliber. I remember late last season, a buddy of mine, a die-hard Packers fan, after a loss said that he thought "Rogers has lost it. I don't think he is going to be the same QB he was before". I thought he was joking, or at least being over dramatic. Of course, being a Bills fan, my immediate reaction was "I will trade you any player, pair or trio on the Bills roster" for him...and while I would still make that deal, I wonder if he was on to something...rumors of Mike McCarthy starting to get frustrated with him for not making the plays that are there to be made...not saying the Packers or Rodgers are not an upper tier team, still....but it is interesting. Packers fans must appreciate Jordy Nelson all the more... Hm, indeed.
Buftex Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Hm, indeed. Just looking...prior to week 6 of last season, QB ratings of 100+ were more the norm for Rodgers than games below...by my count, in the 109 games he started before, with a QB rating of 100+ in 71 of them...and he had few that were much below that mark, especially in 2012-2014 period. It may say more about the Packers offense than it does about Rodgers....
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Just looking...prior to week 6 of last season, QB ratings of 100+ were more the norm for Rodgers than games below...by my count, in the 109 games he started before, with a QB rating of 100+ in 71 of them...and he had few that were much below that mark, especially in 2012-2014 period. It may say more about the Packers offense than it does about Rodgers.... Well he seems to be on a normal career trajectory unlike the HGH-marinated wonder in NE.
Saxum Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Must be tough being a Packers fan.. I know not having any idea what to do with nooses, torches, etc must be frustrating.
Hardcore Bills Fan Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 I think its funny how the Pack's coach is an idiot and Del Rio is a genius for going for it going for 2 when down by 1
Buftex Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 I think its funny how the Pack's coach is an idiot and Del Rio is a genius for going for it going for 2 when down by 1 I know your being sarcastic, but I think McCarthy is pretty underrated. And, I may be wrong, but didn't Del Rio's gambling ways come back to bite him in the ass in week 2 against the Falcons?
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 21, 2016 Author Posted September 21, 2016 I think its funny how the Pack's coach is an idiot and Del Rio is a genius for going for it going for 2 when down by 1 Interestingly, I can't find anything where McCarthy is taking flack for going for it rather than FG when down by 3. I guess a winning history gives ya a lot of cred, even if it doesn't help ya right here, right now. I know not having any idea what to do with nooses, torches, etc must be frustrating. I saw Youtube vid of a Packers lynch mob forming. Two fans lit their hair on fire with the torches. The guys with the pitchforks tried to use the hair fires to roast weenies. Some pitch got spilled and the gov't had to call in the World Wildlife Foundation spill crew to remediate dozens of fans, who objected to treatment like oil-slicked pelicans. The guy with the noose got distracted by a leather-clad biker chick and went off to the No Tell Motel with one of "those" magazines - hey, it's Green Bay, what else is there to do 8 months of the year when you're not watching football? It was a sad display, I tell ya, terrible.
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) Well he seems to be on a normal career trajectory unlike the HGH-marinated wonder in NE. Aaron Rodgers is 32 years old, by QB standards there's no way he should be hitting the wall. That's why I'm not ready to blame age for his struggles. Kelly was leading us to our third Super Bowl at 32. Sure that proverbial wall came shortly after, but not at 32. Kelly's stats were decling, but he was still a big time player. Move on to more recent times, and you'll see 32 is nothing for a QB. Manning was in his prime at 32. Edited September 21, 2016 by DriveFor1Outta5
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 21, 2016 Author Posted September 21, 2016 Aaron Rodgers is 32 years old, by QB standards there's no way he should be hitting the wall. That's why I'm not ready to blame age for his struggles. Kelly was leading us to our third Super Bowl at 32. Sure that proverbial wall came shortly after, but not at 32. Kelly's stats were decling, but he was still a big time player. Move on to more recent times, and you'll see 32 is nothing for a QB. Manning was in his prime at 32. Kelly also took a LOT of hits, and back in the age where players 'got their bell rung' and went back to the huddle. No concussion protocol for him. Rodgers is freakin' teflon and has spent his career making guys miss and sliding or scampering out of bounds. I don't follow the Pack closely enough to know what's up with them last year and this, but I will say their run D seemed paltry and their offense from what I've seen, requires a lot of their OL to buy time for plays to develop downfield.
TheFunPolice Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 Manning had the best year of any QB in NFL history at age 37
Blokestradamus Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 How does this thread not have this link yet? One of the best Twitter accounts going. https://twitter.com/JSComments
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 How does this thread not have this link yet? One of the best Twitter accounts going. https://twitter.com/JSComments I enjoyed that. Thanks. Even though much of is meant for humor, I do tend to agree that any other coach and GM would have won another Super Bowl with Rodgers. During the Packs Super Bowl run we saw a guy who looked like the most talented QB to ever step onto the field. It wasn't just promised talent in the form of potential either. It was talent that we were actually seeing be put to use. When you look at a guy like Manning who strung together almost 17 straight great seasons minus the injury, that's what you would expect from Rodgers. Instead we are seeing the guy put up quite average numbers. He also has an unusual amount of very poor games compared to other elite QBs. It's hard not to believe that the coach and GM are really failing that franchise. Rodgers is a once in a lifetime talent, and something seems amiss.
What a Tuel Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 Rodgers stinks. We will take him off their hands for the low low price of a 2nd round pick. We might be willing to reach with a 1st.
Blokestradamus Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 "Rodgers is averaging 5.9 yards per attempt, about right in line with Blaine Gabbert (5.8) and Case Keenum (5.7)" I don't know what the problem is with Rodgers but I have a bit of a theory. It's a possibility worth entertaining that he's gotten so used to those broken plays and slices of mindblowing magnificence that he's fallen out of rhythm with the offense and his own game. He was so lax with the ball in the pocket on Sunday. It's almost like a fireman setting fires to get acclaim for putting them out. He's been an incredibly efficient guy but one game of above 65% completion since Week 4 of last year. Only once above 60% in his last 7 regular season and playoff games.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 21, 2016 Author Posted September 21, 2016 "Rodgers is averaging 5.9 yards per attempt, about right in line with Blaine Gabbert (5.8) and Case Keenum (5.7)" I don't know what the problem is with Rodgers but I have a bit of a theory. It's a possibility worth entertaining that he's gotten so used to those broken plays and slices of mindblowing magnificence that he's fallen out of rhythm with the offense and his own game. He was so lax with the ball in the pocket on Sunday. It's almost like a fireman setting fires to get acclaim for putting them out. He's been an incredibly efficient guy but one game of above 65% completion since Week 4 of last year. Only once above 60% in his last 7 regular season and playoff games. OMG lax in the pocket - he freaking had diarrhea of the throwing hand! Somebody get the Imodium. He could easily have had 2 more turnovers than he had.
Blokestradamus Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 OMG lax in the pocket - he freaking had diarrhea of the throwing hand! Somebody get the Imodium. He could easily have had 2 more turnovers than he had. I laughed so hard at that, I thought I was dying.
BillsPride12 Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 History repeating itself in GB? Same thing happened in the 90s...everybody thought the Brett Favre era teams were destined to win at least 2-3 Lombardi's and be a mini dynasty. But as mentioned, as a Bills fan its kinda hard to feel too bad for those kind of misfortunes
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) Rodgers went off on the media today. Didn't look very R-E-L-A-X-E-D https://twitter.com/aaronnagler/status/778758839462203392 Edited September 22, 2016 by YoloinOhio
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