Magox Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Stanley Cup Champs? If I had said Buffalo rather than Bills, your joke would have been funnier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 If I had said Buffalo rather than Bills, your joke would have been funnier. You obviously have no appreciation for history. How you could have missed this is unpossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 You obviously have no appreciation for history. How you could have missed this is unpossible. So, It's still possible the Bills can be Stanley cup champions? Oh ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 3, 2016 Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 That made no sense. You're right. And neither does call Andrew Luck "one of the greatest players of our generation". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 You're right. And neither does call Andrew Luck "one of the greatest players of our generation". Ok, but that's not what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 People bashing Luck I would say look at history. When Young was with the Bucks he didn't look good at all, he gets traded to SF and he is a HOFer. A supporting cast and IMO a good coach makes a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) Reggie Wayne blames the GM http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000715677/native/reggie-wayne-blames-front-office-for-colts-struggles?akapp=mobile&akview=phone&akvideo=on Edited October 5, 2016 by Fan in Chicago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 People bashing Luck I would say look at history. When Young was with the Bucks he didn't look good at all, he gets traded to SF and he is a HOFer. A supporting cast and IMO a good coach makes a big difference. Look at Manning's first 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 People bashing Luck I would say look at history. When Young was with the Bucks he didn't look good at all, he gets traded to SF and he is a HOFer. A supporting cast and IMO a good coach makes a big difference. If you think that the Bucs team Young played for is in anyway similar to this Colts team then you need your head examined. That was one of the most untalented rosters in NFL history, and the offensive talent was atrocious. Luck has always had talent at the WR positions and has played with solid TE's as well, including his college TE he already had rapport with. His weapons are light years better than what Young and that Bucs team had and its not even remotely close. Then Young went to probably the MOST talented offense in the entire NFL and one of the best overall organizations at that time over the previous Decade. As I said before, the only fair comparison to Luck right now is Jeff George. A guy with all the ability to be the best QB in the NFL but not the mental make up. Luck has the physical tools, but his poor decision making hurts the Colts and its no surprise they did better with him hurt last year than on the field. This guy was anointed the next king of the NFL, but he has been a complete flop in the playoffs, even during his best regular seasons, has severely regressed the last 2 years, and seems to struggle earlier in games when the game is close then compile a bunch of stats when they fall way behind because of his turnovers and he just starts slinging it against defenses playing off more later in games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 So, It's still possible the Bills can be Stanley cup champions? Oh ok... You obviously missed the hit of the summer: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/186938-introducing-your-stanley-cup-champions/?p=3968856 I bought two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 If you think that the Bucs team Young played for is in anyway similar to this Colts team then you need your head examined. That was one of the most untalented rosters in NFL history, and the offensive talent was atrocious. Luck has always had talent at the WR positions and has played with solid TE's as well, including his college TE he already had rapport with. His weapons are light years better than what Young and that Bucs team had and its not even remotely close. Then Young went to probably the MOST talented offense in the entire NFL and one of the best overall organizations at that time over the previous Decade. As I said before, the only fair comparison to Luck right now is Jeff George. A guy with all the ability to be the best QB in the NFL but not the mental make up. Luck has the physical tools, but his poor decision making hurts the Colts and its no surprise they did better with him hurt last year than on the field. This guy was anointed the next king of the NFL, but he has been a complete flop in the playoffs, even during his best regular seasons, has severely regressed the last 2 years, and seems to struggle earlier in games when the game is close then compile a bunch of stats when they fall way behind because of his turnovers and he just starts slinging it against defenses playing off more later in games. Another eery comparison to George is that Luck is balding just as rapidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 This is lame. @ProFootballTalk Ryan Grigson says Andrew Luck's contract makes it hard to build a defense: https://t.co/vNT14op3nO @moriartysports Dan Moriarty Retweeted ProFootballTalk Embarrassingly weak excuse from a GM w/ next to nothing to hang his hat on aside from drafting lottery ticket he hasn't been able to cash in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 This is lame. @ProFootballTalk Ryan Grigson says Andrew Luck's contract makes it hard to build a defense: https://t.co/vNT14op3nO @moriartysports Dan Moriarty Retweeted ProFootballTalk Embarrassingly weak excuse from a GM w/ next to nothing to hang his hat on aside from drafting lottery ticket he hasn't been able to cash in maybe if he could draft defense. could you imagine whaley managing that team? they'd have lights out defense with a great qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) maybe if he could draft defense. could you imagine whaley managing that team? they'd have lights out defense with a great qb.Who would be their quarterback? Edited October 7, 2016 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Who would be their quarterback? i'm saying luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 #JeffGeorge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 He needs a gm. He should have realized that before he signed for all the money.Agreed, GM is the problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 8, 2016 Author Share Posted October 8, 2016 This is lame. @ProFootballTalk Ryan Grigson says Andrew Luck's contract makes it hard to build a defense: https://t.co/vNT14op3nO @moriartysports Dan Moriarty Retweeted ProFootballTalk Embarrassingly weak excuse from a GM w/ next to nothing to hang his hat on aside from drafting lottery ticket he hasn't been able to cash in All praise to Kim Jung QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 This is lame. @ProFootballTalk Ryan Grigson says Andrew Luck's contract makes it hard to build a defense: https://t.co/vNT14op3nO @moriartysports Dan Moriarty Retweeted ProFootballTalk Embarrassingly weak excuse from a GM w/ next to nothing to hang his hat on aside from drafting lottery ticket he hasn't been able to cash in Ryan Grigson is still the Colts GM? The very same idiot who traded away a #1 pick In Jerry Hughes for a 3rd round Buffalo bum? How Colts GM Grigson and HC Chuck Pagano still have jobs is beyond me. Luck was a playoff QB in 2012, 2013, 2014 and in 2013 the Colts went to the AFC Championship game. In 2015 Luck was injured most of the year. So now because his GM, supporting cast and coaches suck he is another Jeff George? Jacksonville sacked Luck 6x. Denver sacked Luck 5x. The Lions sacked him 2x. The Chargers sacked him 2x. The Colts lead the NFL in sacks allowed. Their run game isn't very good and their defense is about the worst. Call me crazy as I'd trade, Tyrod Taylor, Marcell Dareus, Sammy Watkins all for Andrew Luck! I wonder if Whaley can work some magic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 This is lame. @ProFootballTalk Ryan Grigson says Andrew Luck's contract makes it hard to build a defense: https://t.co/vNT14op3nO @moriartysports Dan Moriarty Retweeted ProFootballTalk Embarrassingly weak excuse from a GM w/ next to nothing to hang his hat on aside from drafting lottery ticket he hasn't been able to cash in Agree with Moriarty totally. Freaking ridiculous excuse by Grigson. He's been horrific both drafting and trading. He gave away a first round pick to Cleveland to acquire epic bust Trent Richardson - after it was obvious to everyone else that he had no field vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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