Virgil Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 If they are going to get fined for Karlos, who isn't on the team, I don't know if cutting Lawson preemptively is going to help
NoSaint Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 perhaps that's why they cut Lawson - to avoid this? He hadn't been suspended yet when they cut him. id like to think that simply a fine wouldnt be the decision maker there, as its not HUGE compared to payroll
dave mcbride Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 id like to think that simply a fine wouldnt be the decision maker there, as its not HUGE compared to payroll Me too, but this is the Bills we're talking about ...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 It'll be the steroids, my guess. Common for treating the inflammation for Crohns. EDIT: Nevermind, looks like it was marijuana. Ian Rapoport @RapSheet #Bills OT Seantrel Henderson tested positive for marijuana, source said, which can be used to help deal with pain for his Crohn's disease. Did he have a medical card? Does that matter to the NFL?
Best Player Available Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 Why not? The feds are ignoring all of the medicinal and recreational activity that's going on in the various states that allow usage. To an extent they are. Awhile back there were rumors of raids set to take place in California. That was years ago. It's all political. Because of its schedule 1 status ( no proven medical benefit) In the eyes of the feds. It must Remain an all cash business. Those pot shops in Colorado can't even deposit money into legal Accounts. really i think this is a long way off for the league. The legal issues are huge, i just don't see the NFL beng groundbreakers On this when the government claims there is no medical benefit from weed. IF those idiots would at least change that staus or until Weed is taken off schedule 1 nothing will move forward from a fed point of view. I think this is years away.
Santana Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) ***I'm thinking that this isn't the first time he's been caught? For a first offense it's a 1 game suspension, the second time is 4 games and the third time is a season long suspension. Can someone clarify this for me if I'm wrong*** I have a weird feeling that he was busted earlier this offseason Edited September 7, 2016 by Jawn Legend
NoSaint Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 Did he have a medical card? Does that matter to the NFL? i doubt it matters - and unless he predisclosed his treatment, it really doesnt matter much what the substance was.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 To an extent they are. Awhile back there were rumors of raids set to take place in California. That was years ago. It's all political. Because of its schedule 1 status ( no proven medical benefit) In the eyes of the feds. It must Remain an all cash business. Those pot shops in Colorado can't even deposit money into legal Accounts. really i think this is a long way off for the league. The legal issues are huge, i just don't see the NFL beng groundbreakers On this when the government claims there is no medical benefit from weed. IF those idiots would at least change that staus or until Weed is taken off schedule 1 nothing will move forward from a fed point of view. I think this is years away. You may well be correct, but the schedule 1 status makes no sense at all to me.
Coach Tuesday Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 To an extent they are. Awhile back there were rumors of raids set to take place in California. That was years ago. It's all political. Because of its schedule 1 status ( no proven medical benefit) In the eyes of the feds. It must Remain an all cash business. Those pot shops in Colorado can't even deposit money into legal Accounts. really i think this is a long way off for the league. The legal issues are huge, i just don't see the NFL beng groundbreakers On this when the government claims there is no medical benefit from weed. IF those idiots would at least change that staus or until Weed is taken off schedule 1 nothing will move forward from a fed point of view. I think this is years away. Law enforcement outfits and prisons get a ton of funding (and in the case of some prisons, serious profits) off of weed being illegal. Plus, it's a convenient excuse to lock up minorities and dissidents. I don't see things changing in the next few years - maybe in a couple of decades.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 ***I'm thinking that this isn't the first time he's been caught? For a first offense it's a 1 game suspension, the second time is 4 games and the third time is a season long suspension. Can someone clarify this for me if I'm wrong*** I have a weird feeling that he was busted earlier this offseason He has weed issues in College and failed a test at the NFL Combine. That put him in the program with random testing. I believe your 1st strike puts you in the program and a failed/missed test after that gets you 4 games.
Best Player Available Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 You may well be correct, but the schedule 1 status makes no sense at all to me. Yep,weed is lumped in with heroin, LSD, etc.
NoSaint Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 ***I'm thinking that this isn't the first time he's been caught? For a first offense it's a 1 game suspension, the second time is 4 games and the third time is a season long suspension. Can someone clarify this for me if I'm wrong*** I have a weird feeling that he was busted earlier this offseason im pretty sure his combine failure is his first. its actually 1st offense gets you tested regularly, 2nd offense is a fine, 3rd offense is 4 games. so either this is his second positive since he was drafted, or its possible this was PED (maybe considered treatment for putting on weight) which is 4 games first offense.
Santana Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 He has weed issues in College and failed a test at the NFL Combine. That put him in the program with random testing. I believe your 1st strike puts you in the program and a failed/missed test after that gets you 4 games. im pretty sure his combine failure is his first. its actually 1st offense gets you tested regularly, 2nd offense is a fine, 3rd offense is 4 games. so either this is his second positive since he was drafted, or its possible this was PED (maybe considered treatment for putting on weight) which is 4 games first offense. Ohh ok ok, thanks for the clarification guys! I really wasn't too sure but I knew the first time wasn't four games. As unfortunate as this is due to his condition, it's really just an irresponsible move on his part. He has to know better.
Coach Tuesday Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 He may just decide to choose weed over football. In his case, I'd maybe understand it.
The Frankish Reich Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 But what if you call it cannabis instead of weed, pot or marijuana? That makes it sound medical. Nobody even knows what substance got Henderson suspended but the pot defenders are out in full force. That was predicate lee. And it is impossible to not feel for Henderson. Crohn's is a tough deal and whether it was prescribed legal steroids, self medicating by giving in to his addiction, or anything in between, it's pretty clear that his condition drove this. As they always are. Look, I voted for the medical marijuana initiative in my state. (By the way, I also believe we should legalize it and treat it exactly like alcohol.) It passed. It was sold to the voters as something that would be used by those with truly serious medical afflictions - chemo nausea, maybe some severe chronic pain conditions. And we all know what happened over time - it was exactly the slippery slope program that the moralist scolds warned us it was. Anyone and everyone could get a medical marijuana "recommendation" from a doctor. So why don't we have exemptions for things like Crohn's Disease sufferers who live in states where medical use (or use in general) is legal? Well, because the NFL knows that any exemption for any specific condition would open the floodgates, and the exception would swallow the rule. The "pot defenders" need to own this. Their strategy worked in making marijuana more acceptable to the public and to state legislatures, and no doubt soon at the federal level. But in the interim, we have to admit that that strategy came at a price, and that price was sacrificing any logical approach to marijuana use by entities such as the NFL.
PromoTheRobot Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 How? It is a schedule 1 drug in the eyes of the feds. So, no different than trying to get a exemption for heroin as a pain reliever. It's only on Schedule 1 for political reasons. It doesn't belong there.
baskingridgebillsfan Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 Hopefully this will be tipping point in the leagues insaine war on Pot. It would be nice it the media would point out the absurdity of punishing someone for smokeing pot to relieve systems of an illness.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 @MatthewFairburn Rex Ryan on Seantrel Henderson: "We can't comment on it. If you want further information on this, contact the league."
jms62 Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 Regardless of how we think. An NFL player testing positive gets suspended. He knew that and still partook. There are other treatments available that don't get you suspended. Par for the course with this team and the NFL..
26CornerBlitz Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 @ChrisBrownBills Rex- I think we have some excellent programs and guys have to be accountable. If it's against the rules it's against the rules. #Bills @buffalobills On Henderson: "We're prepared for whatever happens. This is league discipline, so any other details come from them."
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