Azalin Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Others have appreciated the conversation. Thank you, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) I have had more meaningful discussions with Gatorman. Believe whatever the hell you want, facts be damned. I'm not wasting any more time with you. If that's how you see it then fine. Maybe you are letting your bias for your industry cloud your vision. It happens, but I haven't said anything that isn't true. Edited September 27, 2016 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 If that's how you see it then fine. Maybe you are letting your bias for your industry cloud your vision. It happens, but I haven't said anything that isn't true. How can you lie about your quest for free Netflix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 How can you lie about your quest for free Netflix?Obamaflix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 If that's how you see it then fine. Maybe you are letting your bias for your industry cloud your vision. It happens, but I haven't said anything that isn't true. Nope, I'm basing it on both science and a working knowledge of the infrastructure. You're basing your conclusion on politics. Which one is known to deal in fact, and which one in spin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 If that's how you see it then fine. Maybe you are letting your bias for your industry cloud your vision. It happens, but I haven't said anything that isn't true. Notice how I haven't chimed in on this discussion, even though I am the single biggest know-it-all on the entire internet? You might want to ponder on why that is. Perhaps learn from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I have Verizon unlimited data with a free WiFi hotspot app and VPN as part of this. Suck my balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I have Verizon unlimited data with a free WiFi hotspot app and VPN as part of this. Suck my balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 just because i am an !@#$ I stream music 25/8 on mute. And even give out my hotspot all the time My hotspot name: 'FBI van: #362F892L". Or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 just because i am an !@#$ I stream music 25/8 on mute. You're not an !@#$ - you're doing me a favor. Just for that, I'm buying two steaks for dinner tonight and tossing one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) How can you lie about your quest for free Netflix? What the heck are you talking about? You have to be a real piece of work to think that my argument is for free stuff. Nope, I'm basing it on both science and a working knowledge of the infrastructure. You're basing your conclusion on politics. Which one is known to deal in fact, and which one in spin? Yep, I am sure you absolutely know the ins and outs and infrastructure costs of all the major ISP's because you "work in the industry". You just know man. I understand your bias, it's tough working in one of the most hated industries. It is understandable to be defensive about these companies policies, but it isn't politics. Edit: Oh and I missed this that you said: "Time Warner started putting data caps on their customers years ago - not in an effort to "monetize data", but instead to manage the ever increasing load on the network." Time Warner tested out data caps in a few areas, and got rid of them after the ensuing customer backlash. They have been doing fine without data caps for some time now. I guess, their networks must be quite overloaded right now. But you know, you are the all knowing expert. Notice how I haven't chimed in on this discussion, even though I am the single biggest know-it-all on the entire internet? You might want to ponder on why that is. Perhaps learn from it. You can join the club of "I know what I am talking about, just trust me, I work in the industry" then. He has shown me nothing outside of "I know infrastructure, and trust me, it costs a ton." Meanwhile CEO's of ISP's say; no, it is actually declining. Edited September 27, 2016 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 You can join the club of "I know what I am talking about, just trust me, I work in the industry" then. He has shown me nothing outside of "I know infrastructure, and trust me, it costs a ton." Meanwhile CEO's of ISP's say; no, it is actually declining. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Yep, I am sure you absolutely know the ins and outs and infrastructure costs of all the major ISP's because you "work in the industry". You just know man. I understand your bias, it's tough working in one of the most hated industries. It is understandable to be defensive about these companies policies, but it isn't politics. Edit: Oh and I missed this that you said: "Time Warner started putting data caps on their customers years ago - not in an effort to "monetize data", but instead to manage the ever increasing load on the network." Time Warner tested out data caps in a few areas, and got rid of them after the ensuing customer backlash. They have been doing fine without data caps for some time now. I guess, their networks must be quite overloaded right now. But you know, you are the all knowing expert. Yes, I do know the ins & outs of infrastructure, transport capability, and maintenance & upgrade deployment costs, because I do work in the industry. What you call my bias, I call my education and experience. If I'm not qualified to discuss this, then what the %@#$ is your qualification? I have not argued opinion. I've been correcting your misinformed and extraordinarily myopic opinion. If you choose to be a tree stump for the rest of your life, then that's your business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Wow. Who knew he worshipped at the church of net neutrality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Who knew he worshipped at the church of net neutrality? I'm more stunned that he completely missed my point of "If a pedantic supercilious anal orifice like me has the great good sense to shut up and read when obvious experts are explaining a topic, maybe you should stop and think about what you're posting." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I'm more stunned that he completely missed my point of "If a pedantic supercilious anal orifice like me has the great good sense to shut up and read when obvious experts are explaining a topic, maybe you should stop and think about what you're posting." He's going off belief, not facts. It's moved into religion territory for him. Refusal to accept general facts because they point out flaws in his beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Who knew he worshipped at the church of net neutrality? And doesn't even know that he sourced a CEO quote from 2010, and that company had to sell out because it couldn't maintain the capital expenses needed to provide high bandwidth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 You're not an !@#$ - you're doing me a favor. Just for that, I'm buying two steaks for dinner tonight and tossing one out. how's that a favor? I don't follow? Here. A few more characters. I'll use more data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) Um, what is an expert opinion or member of the industry worth when he wasn't even aware that time warner cable does not do data caps. So his "expert" opinion about time warner presently doing data caps to lighten their load on their networks was what? A guess? Expert opinion? You guys are grasping here based on 1 member of the industry's so called opinion utilized which might be based on his perceived experience, but it proves it isn't infallible. I don't expect you to believe me, not after these reactions, but cord cutting is a thing. And it is a thing that the cable industry (who are in large part ISP's) are moving to address. Believe it or not. That is the opinion of a wide number of experts and analysts of these company's. Look it up. And doesn't even know that he sourced a CEO quote from 2010, and that company had to sell out because it couldn't maintain the capital expenses needed to provide high bandwidth. The company did not sell for those reasons. They were actually bought out 2 times since 2010. The latest purchase by "Altice" was to gain a foothold in the US market. Edited September 27, 2016 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 The company did not sell for those reasons. They were actually bought out 2 times since 2010. The latest purchase by "Altice" was to gain a foothold in the US market. They were not bought out 2 times. Jerry Kent kept on adding cable assets through leveraged buyouts. They eventually sold out because they knew they didn't have the capital to compete with the big boys, so may as well take the easy money from the French and have them take the beating. But go ahead and tell me how you understand the industry by reading a pro-net neutrality blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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