NoSaint Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 I just have common sense. Someone from my work calls me at the wrong number to come in and I don't and the boss gets mad and suspends me without pay for 4 days and I say actually you called the wrong number I submitted my new number a while back and he says ok fine then you are suspended 2 days without pay instead of 4. You would just accept that as truth and facts and not make money for 2 days when it was their fault? Riiight. Sounds like a little white lie he told to get a reduced suspension. Nothing that the Bills couldn't have done with Dareus. 2 vs 4 games is a huge deal so you think that bells argument was "4 games? think we could do something a little more friendly?!?" and the nfl said "now that you mention it, sure" and other players are ignoring that. thats the common sense you are using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 I had never heard a time line to his re-hab. That why I thought misses half season, then not in game shape, that's all for 2016 We'll see reported the day his rehab was announced. It certainly has been crickets on Dareus since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 reported the day his rehab was announced. It certainly has been crickets on Dareus since then. As it's supposed to be. Though I'm surprised in the age of Twitter, people aren't live-Tweeting the group therapy sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 is there a link confirming he has depression? He is? Yeah really? Someone early on posted depression and even suicidal.................where did all that come from? Many assumed because it matched their narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 so you think that bells argument was "4 games? think we could do something a little more friendly?!?" and the nfl said "now that you mention it, sure" and other players are ignoring that. thats the common sense you are using? no he lied and said he got a new phone. pretty easy to come up with an excuse like that for Dareus. especially since he's struggling with depression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 no he lied and said he got a new phone. pretty easy to come up with an excuse like that for Dareus. especially since he's struggling with depression See? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Dareus. C'mon. the time it takes to get to the ballpark. #probowler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) is there a link confirming he has depression? Not that I've seen Edit: here's a link capturing a tweet from someone named "SarahWNY" stating that Dareus has talked about depression and seeing a psychiatrist & psychologist. But a tweet by someone we don't know nuts about, is not exactly a great source. Edit 2: Ty Dunne article from 6 June 2016 detailing all the bereavements of close family members/friends Dareus has experienced and mentioning Dareus as being in a state of depression last year and working with a psychiatrist and psychologist to help him manage the death of friend this June. Edited September 6, 2016 by Hopeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) as hopeful points out, if it was documented that he changed his number and properly alerted the league -- surely you see the difference. if literally every missed test is going to be reduced simply because it was a missed test, they may as well change the standing policy. but thats not the case with bell, and until you tell me why its not the case with dareus, the discussion isnt really going anywhere. How many chances does Bell get? Didn't he have a DUI + Marijuana possession charge reduced to 2 games last year? Now a missed test reduced to 3 games this year. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000504287/article/leveon-bell-suspension-reduced-to-two-games http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000687567/article/leveon-bells-suspension-reduced-to-three-games So maybe someone should tell us what Dareus is doing differently than Bell? Edited September 6, 2016 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 it was reported that he is not expected to be in rehab any longer than his suspension. Yolo, the only thing I remember reading is the headline "no timeline on Dareus return"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Yolo, the only thing I remember reading is the headline "no timeline on Dareus return"? that was the official team statement. One of the local reporters was asked on Twitter if he was expected out beyond 10/3 and he said no, he was not. Can't recall who it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 @bytimgraham Marcell Dareus has not checked into a rehab facility. He's receiving treatment locally while working out w/Bills and attending meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 @bytimgraham Marcell Dareus has not checked into a rehab facility. He's receiving treatment locally while working out w/Bills and attending meetings. Isn't that outside the bounds of his suspension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Isn't that outside the bounds of his suspension? the henderson thread actually said for MJ suspensions less than a year, they just cant practice or play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 the henderson thread actually said for MJ suspensions less than a year, they just cant practice or play Wow...I had no idea--thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 @bytimgraham Marcell Dareus has not checked into a rehab facility. He's receiving treatment locally while working out w/Bills and attending meetings. I don't know what to think about this. On the one hand, apparently he has an established therapeutic relationship with a psychiatrist and psychologist locally, so it doesn't necessarily make sense to go elsewhere if there's an already established relationship of mutual trust. On the other hand, sometimes a new surrounding brings new perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) Isn't that outside the bounds of his suspension? no, because non-PED substance abuse violators can do everything but practice and play in games. I think it's in new CBA. Nflpa wanted them to be around team rather than off on their own. Edit - just saw no saint already answered Edited September 7, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Wow...I had no idea--thanks. was news to me too -- i had always discussed this as him being banished. i feel slightly better having him in the facility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Isn't that outside the bounds of his suspension? Depends upon what they mean by "working out". I believe he can't practice with the team or play, but he can attend meetings and use the workout facilities/trainers. "Short of attending practice or games, players suspended for substance abuse can do everything that eligible players can. That includes lifting weights, watching film, receiving treatment, sitting in on team meetings -- and chilling in the locker room." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 was news to me too -- i had always discussed this as him being banished. i feel slightly better having him in the facility i learned this from one of the Josh Gordon suspensions - they kept talking about how good it was for him to not be banished from the team and facility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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