So how long will it take for Dareus to get back to form?

[NoSaint]

I just have common sense. Someone from my work calls me at the wrong number to come in and I don't and the boss gets mad and suspends me without pay for 4 days and I say actually you called the wrong number I submitted my new number a while back and he says ok fine then you are suspended 2 days without pay instead of 4. You would just accept that as truth and facts and not make money for 2 days when it was their fault? Riiight. Sounds like a little white lie he told to get a reduced suspension. Nothing that the Bills couldn't have done with Dareus. 2 vs 4 games is a huge deal

so you think that bells argument was "4 games? think we could do something a little more friendly?!?" and the nfl said "now that you mention it, sure" and other players are ignoring that.

 

thats the common sense you are using?

[YoloinOhio]

 

I had never heard a time line to his re-hab. That why I thought misses half season, then not in game shape, that's all for 2016

 

We'll see

reported the day his rehab was announced.

 

It certainly has been crickets on Dareus since then.

[shoshin]

reported the day his rehab was announced.

 

It certainly has been crickets on Dareus since then.

 

As it's supposed to be. Though I'm surprised in the age of Twitter, people aren't live-Tweeting the group therapy sessions.

[Mr. WEO]

 

 

 

is there a link confirming he has depression?

 

 

 

 

He is?

 

Yeah really? Someone early on posted depression and even suicidal.................where did all that come from?

 

 

Many assumed because it matched their narrative.

[K D]

so you think that bells argument was "4 games? think we could do something a little more friendly?!?" and the nfl said "now that you mention it, sure" and other players are ignoring that.

 

thats the common sense you are using?

no he lied and said he got a new phone. pretty easy to come up with an excuse like that for Dareus. especially since he's struggling with depression

[Mr. WEO]

no he lied and said he got a new phone. pretty easy to come up with an excuse like that for Dareus. especially since he's struggling with depression

 

 

See?

[8-8 Forever?]

Dareus. C'mon.

the time it takes to get to the ballpark. #probowler

[Hapless Bills Fan]

is there a link confirming he has depression?

 

Not that I've seen

 

Edit: here's a link capturing a tweet from someone named "SarahWNY" stating that Dareus has talked about depression and seeing a psychiatrist & psychologist. But a tweet by someone we don't know nuts about, is not exactly a great source.

 

Edit 2: Ty Dunne article from 6 June 2016 detailing all the bereavements of close family members/friends Dareus has experienced and mentioning Dareus as being in a state of depression last year and working with a psychiatrist and psychologist to help him manage the death of friend this June.

Edited September 6, 2016 by Hopeful

[What a Tuel]

as hopeful points out, if it was documented that he changed his number and properly alerted the league -- surely you see the difference.

 

if literally every missed test is going to be reduced simply because it was a missed test, they may as well change the standing policy. but thats not the case with bell, and until you tell me why its not the case with dareus, the discussion isnt really going anywhere.

 

How many chances does Bell get? Didn't he have a DUI + Marijuana possession charge reduced to 2 games last year?

 

Now a missed test reduced to 3 games this year.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000504287/article/leveon-bell-suspension-reduced-to-two-games

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000687567/article/leveon-bells-suspension-reduced-to-three-games

 

So maybe someone should tell us what Dareus is doing differently than Bell?

Edited September 6, 2016 by What a Tuel

[Hapless Bills Fan]

it was reported that he is not expected to be in rehab any longer than his suspension.

 

 

Yolo, the only thing I remember reading is the headline "no timeline on Dareus return"?

[YoloinOhio]

 

Yolo, the only thing I remember reading is the headline "no timeline on Dareus return"?

that was the official team statement. One of the local reporters was asked on Twitter if he was expected out beyond 10/3 and he said no, he was not. Can't recall who it was.

[YoloinOhio]

@bytimgraham

Marcell Dareus has not checked into a rehab facility. He's receiving treatment locally while working out w/Bills and attending meetings.

[thebandit27]

@bytimgraham

Marcell Dareus has not checked into a rehab facility. He's receiving treatment locally while working out w/Bills and attending meetings.

 

Isn't that outside the bounds of his suspension?

[NoSaint]

 

Isn't that outside the bounds of his suspension?

the henderson thread actually said for MJ suspensions less than a year, they just cant practice or play

[thebandit27]

the henderson thread actually said for MJ suspensions less than a year, they just cant practice or play

 

Wow...I had no idea--thanks.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

@bytimgraham

Marcell Dareus has not checked into a rehab facility. He's receiving treatment locally while working out w/Bills and attending meetings.

 

I don't know what to think about this. On the one hand, apparently he has an established therapeutic relationship with a psychiatrist and psychologist locally, so it doesn't necessarily make sense to go elsewhere if there's an already established relationship of mutual trust. On the other hand, sometimes a new surrounding brings new perspective.

[YoloinOhio]

 

Isn't that outside the bounds of his suspension?

no, because non-PED substance abuse violators can do everything but practice and play in games. I think it's in new CBA. Nflpa wanted them to be around team rather than off on their own.

 

Edit - just saw no saint already answered

Edited September 7, 2016 by YoloinOhio

[NoSaint]

 

Wow...I had no idea--thanks.

was news to me too -- i had always discussed this as him being banished.

 

i feel slightly better having him in the facility

[Hapless Bills Fan]

 

Isn't that outside the bounds of his suspension?

 

Depends upon what they mean by "working out". I believe he can't practice with the team or play, but he can attend meetings and use the workout facilities/trainers. "Short of attending practice or games, players suspended for substance abuse can do everything that eligible players can. That includes lifting weights, watching film, receiving treatment, sitting in on team meetings -- and chilling in the locker room."

[YoloinOhio]

was news to me too -- i had always discussed this as him being banished.

 

i feel slightly better having him in the facility

i learned this from one of the Josh Gordon suspensions - they kept talking about how good it was for him to not be banished from the team and facility.