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Ah, yes.

 

Although, even if the rule is changed back, a kickoff specialist was always a luxury, right?

I was thinking, though, if the rule sticks, would a kickoff specialist who could drop the ball shy of the end zone (as opposed to Gay's ability to boom it out the other side) not be a valuable commodity?

 

I would think that (if TB's are moved back to the 20-yard line again) having a guy who can consistently KO into/out of the EZ, get touchbacks, and eliminate returns, would be a good weapon to have and would justify keeping someone else at the 53rd spot. I don't think Gay is that guy though.

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Will he? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't we the only team sat season to have a kickoff specialist? And, didn't Gay just show the league that field goals weren't really his thing?

 

You are wrong. Two teams used kickoff specialist in 2015.

I think the argument is that Carpenter can do that, he can't kick it deep for touchbacks like Gay can. So Gay is possibly a valuable addition if the team is going to start at the 20 yard line. But if it's the 25, Carpenter kicking it to the goaliwne or 2 yards deep should keep the KR team inside of the 25 even with a return.

 

A lot of teams would use a KO specialist if game day roster spots were not so valuable. 31 of 32 teams decided last year that spot, for an extra backup lineman or DB or LB or RB or WR, etc who may be valuable in packages or due to injury was more important than a guy who kicks deep. Not to mention that most kickers can kick deeper than Carpenter at this point in his career.

 

30 of 32 not 31 of 32.

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I'm not denying it but who was the other?

 

Read an article today that quoted 30 of 32 teams but not remember it mentioning team; will look at my history.

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Read an article today that quoted 30 of 32 teams but not remember it mentioning team; will look at my history.

McAfee KO for the Colts and he's not the regular kicker but he doesn't count because he is the punter. So he doesn't take up an extra roster spot. I think Denver used one two years ago for some games but not the season.
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The article about Humber said he's 5-foot-11 and 232 pounds. Eric Striker is 6 foot and 218, and he was too small. Humber carries a little more weight but he still seems pretty small to play LB.

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The article about Humber said he's 5-foot-11 and 232 pounds. Eric Striker is 6 foot and 218, and he was too small. Humber carries a little more weight but he still seems pretty small to play LB.

 

Shorter and heavier is more stout that taller and leaner.

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The article about Humber said he's 5-foot-11 and 232 pounds. Eric Striker is 6 foot and 218, and he was too small. Humber carries a little more weight but he still seems pretty small to play LB.

 

 

 

Shorter and heavier is more stout that taller and leaner.

 

Yes was thinking about London Fletcher who was 5'10" and 242 pounds. He was really stout.

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I'm not denying it but who was the other?

 

 

 

Read an article today that quoted 30 of 32 teams but not remember it mentioning team; will look at my history.

 

 

McAfee KO for the Colts and he's not the regular kicker but he doesn't count because he is the punter. So he doesn't take up an extra roster spot. I think Denver used one two years ago for some games but not the season.

 

http://bills.buffalonews.com/2016/08/31/bills-release-jordan-gay-means-team-wont-keep-kickoff-specialist-lb-ramon-humber-signed/

 

The team released kicker Jordan Gay on Wednesday, meaning Carpenter will handle field goals and kickoffs this season. The Bills were one of only two teams in the NFL to keep a kickoff specialist last season, but a change in the touchback rule this season hurt Gay's chances of making the team in that role again.

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