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Wasted pick-up, another loser

 

Why? They know who's making the 53-man roster and traded his spot for a guy who everyone knew was a goner.

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Wasted pick-up, another loser

Well, this late in the preseason, one would hope they wouldn't sign a player that doesn't have any relationship with someone on the coaching staff.

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But then when it became apparent in the preseason games that Gay was seemingly incapable of going straight during FG attempts, his fate was sealed.

 

 

there is a joke here.....somewhere

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J.Gay is a good guy, him and his wife are active in Moorman's P.U.N.T. Foundation. Hope he lands on his feet somewhere. Carpenter was on fire in training camp and during games and it would have been difficult to unseat him with a very good performance during the Giants pre-season game.

Yep Jordan has been very good on and off the field.

But the days of Specialists were numbered.

Hope he focuses on FG and get another shot somewhere

 

34 touchbacks on 62 kickoffs at UC Davis. None in the NFL that I'm aware of.

 

I know, I'm a fountain of useless ****. :lol:

wow, that is hardly useless.

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Gay just has to sit out the year. He'll get a shot again next year.

Will he? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't we the only team sat season to have a kickoff specialist? And, didn't Gay just show the league that field goals weren't really his thing?

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Will he? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't we the only team sat season to have a kickoff specialist? And, didn't Gay just show the league that field goals weren't really his thing?

 

I think what Doc is saying is the rule that makes Touchbacks out to the 25 yard line makes Gay mostly useless to any team, but he's thinking the league will realize how stupid they were, and cut out that rule within the year, making a KO specialist possibly worth something next year.
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I think what Doc is saying is the rule that makes Touchbacks out to the 25 yard line makes Gay mostly useless to any team, but he's thinking the league will realize how stupid they were, and cut out that rule within the year, making a KO specialist possibly worth something next year.

 

This. Thanks. But I think that, as RL intimated, Gay needs to work on his FG's to become more marketable.

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I think what Doc is saying is the rule that makes Touchbacks out to the 25 yard line makes Gay mostly useless to any team, but he's thinking the league will realize how stupid they were, and cut out that rule within the year, making a KO specialist possibly worth something next year.

 

This. Thanks. But I think that, as RL intimated, Gay needs to work on his FG's to become more marketable.

Ah, yes.

 

Although, even if the rule is changed back, a kickoff specialist was always a luxury, right?

I was thinking, though, if the rule sticks, would a kickoff specialist who could drop the ball shy of the end zone (as opposed to Gay's ability to boom it out the other side) not be a valuable commodity?

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Ah, yes.

 

Although, even if the rule is changed back, a kickoff specialist was always a luxury, right?

I was thinking, though, if the rule sticks, would a kickoff specialist who could drop the ball shy of the end zone (as opposed to Gay's ability to boom it out the other side) not be a valuable commodity?

 

I think the argument is that Carpenter can do that, he can't kick it deep for touchbacks like Gay can. So Gay is possibly a valuable addition if the team is going to start at the 20 yard line. But if it's the 25, Carpenter kicking it to the goaliwne or 2 yards deep should keep the KR team inside of the 25 even with a return.

 

A lot of teams would use a KO specialist if game day roster spots were not so valuable. 31 of 32 teams decided last year that spot, for an extra backup lineman or DB or LB or RB or WR, etc who may be valuable in packages or due to injury was more important than a guy who kicks deep. Not to mention that most kickers can kick deeper than Carpenter at this point in his career.

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I think the argument is that Carpenter can do that, he can't kick it deep for touchbacks like Gay can. So Gay is possibly a valuable addition if the team is going to start at the 20 yard line. But if it's the 25, Carpenter kicking it to the goaliwne or 2 yards deep should keep the KR team inside of the 25 even with a return.

 

A lot of teams would use a KO specialist if game day roster spots were not so valuable. 31 of 32 teams decided last year that spot, for an extra backup lineman or DB or LB or RB or WR, etc who may be valuable in packages or due to injury was more important than a guy who kicks deep. Not to mention that most kickers can kick deeper than Carpenter at this point in his career.

We saw it week two vs. the Giants.

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