CommonCents Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 As posted previously, there is already the ability to do signature comparisons when voters cast their ballots. It's an easy thing to detect with the current system in place. Non-issue for the umpteenth time. The same states that are being accused of enacting laws that will alter the vote have the ability to utilize signature comparisons to uphold the integrity of the election! That's impressive I'm sure that part of the process is as seamless as the rest of it.
Kelly the Dog Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 There are such things as fake drivers' licenses, fake passports, so let's add fake voter ID cards to the list. Yup. Everyone I knew at college had fake voter IDs. Plus the bouncers at the voting booths didn't really closely check them, especially if you were hot.
mannc Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 There are such things as fake drivers' licenses, fake passports, so let's add fake voter ID cards to the list. Actually, under North Dakota's ridiculous voting laws, even US passports and military IDs are considered insufficient forms of voter identification.
Mr. WEO Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 I'm not sure why Brooklyn only has only two DMV offices (assuming that's true), but at least they have some. Are you unable to see the difference between Kings County (Brooklyn), which has widespread, cheap and reliable public transportation, and counties in rural Alabama that have no DMV offices and virtually no public transportation? Isn't that true in any rural county in the US? Some people have to drive longer to others to get a drivers license that will last for years. Brooklyn only has 2 because most people don't own cars. In other words, the number of offices roughly matches the demand. Isn't that the way it should work? Should very rural areas in every state always keep all municipal offices open even if their usage is very low and there is another in a neighboring county? Ummmm... Because Brooklyn is like a total of 70 square miles, so there is one every 35 square miles, so, like, its 5-7 miles away. How far would you travel to get your drivers license? At what point is it an unreasonable distance? For the most part, yes, although a substantial number of people in rural communities don't have the ID to get ID. I have read a lot of stuff about voter fraud though, from both sides, and it's such a small issue compared to a lot of other stuff. The rural poor are often receiving public assistance, such as Medicaid, which requires documentation of citizenship and documentation that you are who you say you are (i.e., a photo ID). Voter fraud is tiny and both sides are using it only to further political gains. The problem of fraud is exaggerated and the solution would be very simple if the state wanted to get every adult a photo ID.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 30, 2016 Author Posted August 30, 2016 Yup. Everyone I knew at college had fake voter IDs. Plus the bouncers at the voting booths didn't really closely check them, especially if you were hot. Actually, under North Dakota's ridiculous voting laws, even US passports and military IDs are considered insufficient forms of voter identification. How ridiculous is that?!?
Kelly the Dog Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 Actually, under North Dakota's ridiculous voting laws, even US passports and military IDs are considered insufficient forms of voter identification.Obviously disrespecting the flag and basically spitting in the face of all veterans.
LB3 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 @MaioccoCSN With coach Chip Kelly saying Colin Kaepernick is one of the #49ers two best QBs, it makes it awfully difficult to cut him later this week. I think we can all agree that this really sucks for the 49ers.
Mr. WEO Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) Actually, under North Dakota's ridiculous voting laws, even US passports and military IDs are considered insufficient forms of voter identification. wrong...Military ID is acceptable...if you are in the military. Others your driver's license is all you need there. Don';t drive? You get a non driver ID at the same place. Simple. Edited August 30, 2016 by Mr. WEO
What a Tuel Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 There's no valid reason to spend one single dollar on this non-issue of voter fraud. It's a BS issue. Two separate issues. There is requiring ID to vote where you claim the means to get an ID are difficult. There is making sure ID's are widely available, which certainly aids in presenting your ID to vote, but that is not the sole reason nor the sole benefit one would need an ID for. Identification is something that helps people in a multitude of different ways and isn't just bureaucracy aimed at voters.
mannc Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 wrong...Military ID is acceptable...if you are in the military. Others your driver's license is all you need there. Don';t drive? You get a non driver ID at the same place. Simple. Actually, a high percentage of ND's substantial native American population lives on reservations, which do not contain any DMV offices and are generally a long way away from such offices. Again, it doesn't make voting impossible; it just makes it more difficult for a group that coincidentally tends to vote Democratic. Making it more difficult means less of those folks will vote. Can you think of a single reason that a United States Passport should not be a sufficient form of voter ID?
thebandit27 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 And here's Rodney Harrison gumming up the whole issue for everyone: http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/30/nfls-rodney-harrison-colin-kaepernick-is-not-black Nice job, Rodney.
Kelly the Dog Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 And here's Rodney Harrison gumming up the whole issue for everyone: http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/30/nfls-rodney-harrison-colin-kaepernick-is-not-black Nice job, Rodney. There is that old maxim, "If it acts like a dick, and sounds like a dick, it's a dick."
mannc Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 And here's Rodney Harrison gumming up the whole issue for everyone: http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/30/nfls-rodney-harrison-colin-kaepernick-is-not-black Nice job, Rodney. Here is something I think we can all agree on: Rodney, you are an ass.
Magox Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 It doesn't really matter what the legislature's intent is (although the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals recently found that in passing its voting restrictions, the gerrymandered republican legislature of North Carolina specifically intended to disenfranchise minority voters); if the restrictive voting rules are not reasonably calculated to address a real problem and they have a disproportionate effect on the voting rights of minority groups, then they are illegal. (That's a bit of a simplification, I admit.) It is also irrelevant what "the majority of the country believes is good policy". That's why we have a constitution. Yes we do... And just like the bible, it is interpreted often with people who are predisposed to have their own ideological views. Unfortunately, centrism is a dying political space to reside.
Magox Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 Theory? To hell with that. Give me proof or.....Sit Down. Now that is funny, coming from you.
IDBillzFan Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 My experience is that it's always a good idea to provide a solution to a non problem. Many states are complaining about not having enough funding to take care of services for the residents, but why not add another layer of unnecessary bureaucracy. This is where you're making an error. You're assuming it's not a non problem for everyone because it's a non problem for you. Imagine how great it would be for all those people who don't have an ID to finally get one! Why would you want to deny them the chance to get an ID. Go to the library! Have access to computers! Maybe find a job! Don't you want to help these people?
Maury Ballstein Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 Kap is a converted muslim and his girlfriend is a blm activist. It explains his irrational decision and the media bias. Were doomed as a country if HC wins potus. http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/08/30/curt-schilling-media-celebrating-colin-kaepernick-vilified-tim-tebow-for-lowering-his-head-in-prayer-to-god/ Did he get his dead arm when he stopped eating swine ? Here is something I think we can all agree on: Rodney, you are an ass. Easily. Everyone looks at Rodney when he enters a store like he's gonna steal something ? Yea ok millionaire Puleeeeze. Get this bum off SNF.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 30, 2016 Author Posted August 30, 2016 This is where you're making an error. You're assuming it's not a non problem for everyone because it's a non problem for you. Imagine how great it would be for all those people who don't have an ID to finally get one! Why would you want to deny them the chance to get an ID. Go to the library! Have access to computers! Maybe find a job! Don't you want to help these people? They can just get a counterfeit voter id.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 Kap is a converted muslim and his girlfriend is a blm activist. It explains his irrational decision and the media bias. Were doomed as a country if HC wins potus. http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/08/30/curt-schilling-media-celebrating-colin-kaepernick-vilified-tim-tebow-for-lowering-his-head-in-prayer-to-god/ False per Snopes http://www.snopes.com/colin-kaepernick-converts-to-islam/
Kelly the Dog Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 Kap is a converted muslim and his girlfriend is a blm activist. It explains his irrational decision and the media bias. Were doomed as a country if HC wins potus. http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/08/30/curt-schilling-media-celebrating-colin-kaepernick-vilified-tim-tebow-for-lowering-his-head-in-prayer-to-god/ False. http://www.snopes.com/colin-kaepernick-converts-to-islam/
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