Kelly the Dog Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Right, black kids aren't allowed to play with toy guns. And if they cop isn't sure, just drive up and shoot him in the chest. Case closed. Do you know for a fact that he hasn't tried to help in the community? Or just looking for another way to discredit him? A lot of his charity work is done for heart disease, because his white parents lost two infants to heart disease, and he asked around to find a charity that tries to help with that. The racist, stupid ingrate.
Magox Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 I did a search. Colin Kaepernick race relations. First article that comes up is about the fact he was thinking about race relations before he could walk and talk. http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/colin-kaepernick-details-childhood-racial-struggle-2015810 Good find. It appears to me that his struggles have more to do with internal conflict than anything else.
Kelly the Dog Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 I would imagine most if not all mixed race kids have the same feelings. What is completely absent from that article from a year ago is any hint that he felt this country oppressed people of color--and the bodies were already "in the streets" when he gave that interview. He did make clear his thought about his wardrobe though. Because he doesn't mention something in an article where he is being asked questions means it's not ever on his mind, he just suddenly decided this is the issue he is going to protest in the last three weeks. Got it.
klos63 Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 You like those strawmen don't you. The big question still eludes you why cops behave differently in high crime areas than in non high crime areas. If Kaep is worried about oppression and subservience, where is his campaign against the gangs, who are far more responsible for the deaths of black youth? No strawman argument here. This is an actual case. You asked why it is glossed over that he wasn't questioned for having a gun, you totally ignore the fact that it was a toy gun, something pretty common for 13 year olds to play with. You don't want to address that the premise of your excusing of the cops shooting is totally false.
GG Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 A lot of his charity work is done for heart disease, because his white parents lost two infants to heart disease, and he asked around to find a charity that tries to help with that. The racist, stupid ingrate. Correct, and that charity had done good work. And that means nothing because now he waded into a turf where he hadn't done any work with and insulted a great country.
klos63 Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 A lot of his charity work is done for heart disease, because his white parents lost two infants to heart disease, and he asked around to find a charity that tries to help with that. The racist, stupid ingrate. He needs to do what he is told and then he needs to support only the charities approved of by TBD posters.
Kelly the Dog Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Good find. It appears to me that his struggles have more to do with internal conflict than anything else.As would anyone who had mixed race parents who abandoned him, grew up in an entirely white family in a mostly white state, and because his biological parents had one black person amongst them, one out of four of his parents, he lives in a country that automatically decides he is black not white. You know, because we round down.
klos63 Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Correct, and that charity had done good work. And that means nothing because now he waded into a turf where he hadn't done any work with and insulted a great country. I bet it still means a lot to the people that are helped by his contributions - but please continue to try to discredit anything positive that he does.
GG Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 No strawman argument here. This is an actual case. You asked why it is glossed over that he wasn't questioned for having a gun, you totally ignore the fact that it was a toy gun, something pretty common for 13 year olds to play with. You don't want to address that the premise of your excusing of the cops shooting is totally false. It is a strawman argument, because it's nowhere near the representation of what's happening in the communities. Just like you pretended that lynchings are a recent part of the landscape. If you choose to pick falsehoods to back your argument, there's no point to continue this.
klos63 Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Correct, and that charity had done good work. And that means nothing because now he waded into a turf where he hadn't done any work with and insulted a great country. I think you have waded into a turf of race where you haven't done any work and your statements also mean absolutely nothing now.
GG Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 I bet it still means a lot to the people that are helped by his contributions - but please continue to try to discredit anything positive that he does. Yes that's exactly what I've done. Enjoy the argument with yourself
Mr. WEO Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) Because he doesn't mention something in an article where he is being asked questions means it's not ever on his mind, he just suddenly decided this is the issue he is going to protest in the last three weeks. Got it. You cited this interview as an example of his thoughts on "race relations"! In the year leading up tot that interview, Eric Garner was dead, Michale Brown was dead. Tamar Rice was dead. Freddy Gray was dead and Baltimore was burning just 6 months before that article was written--and Kaep has no thoughts he can share about race relations except being uncomfortable sometimes in hotel lobbies with his team as a kid? We learned more about his clothes in that article written less than year ago... Edited August 28, 2016 by Mr. WEO
klos63 Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 It is a strawman argument, because it's nowhere near the representation of what's happening in the communities. Just like you pretended that lynchings are a recent part of the landscape. If you choose to pick falsehoods to back your argument, there's no point to continue this. you continue to ignore your falsehood in stating Tamir had a gun, and missing the huge point that it was a toy gun, a very appropriate toy for a child. If you continue to promote false statements to support your argument , there's no point to continue this.
Kelly the Dog Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 You cited this interview as an example of his thoughts on "race relations"! In the year leading up tot that interview, Eric Garner was dead, Michale Brown was dead. Tamar Rice was dead. Freddy Gray was dead and Baltimore was burning just 6 months before that article was written--and Kaep has no thoughts he can share about race relations except being uncomfortable sometimes in hole lobbies with his team as a kid? He is being interviewed. He answers questions brought up to him. I'm surprised you didn't know that.
Mr. WEO Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 He is being interviewed. He answers questions brought up to him. I'm surprised you didn't know that. Ah, so in an article you brought here purportedly describing his thoughts on race relations, we actually did not learn about his true thoughts on race relations...because he wasn't properly questioned on them? So he was holding back?
GG Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 you continue to ignore your falsehood in stating Tamir had a gun, and missing the huge point that it was a toy gun, a very appropriate toy for a child. If you continue to promote false statements to support your argument , there's no point to continue this. And exactly why are you sticking to this argument? Are the police riding around this country looking to shoot 13 year old boys? Or was this a tragic accident that is not at ask representative of what is really happening. Why aren't you asking the person who called the police. Because, after all it was just a 13 year old with a toy gun who posed no threat. There was no reason to call the police.
Kelly the Dog Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Ah, so in an article you brought here purportedly describing his thoughts on race relations, we actually did not learn about his true thoughts on race relations...because he wasn't properly questioned on them? So he was holding back? It was an interview with a fashion magazine. I'm sure they were grilling him about what he felt about black teenagers getting killed.
Magox Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Are the police riding around this country looking to shoot 13 year old boys? Haven't you been paying attention? We live in America, of course we do this. It is who we are.
Prickly Pete Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 Self-loathing runs deep in Kaepernick. Hopefully he gets help.
Mr. WEO Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) And exactly why are you sticking to this argument? Are the police riding around this country looking to shoot 13 year old boys? Or was this a tragic accident that is not at ask representative of what is really happening. Why aren't you asking the person who called the police. Because, after all it was just a 13 year old with a toy gun who posed no threat. There was no reason to call the police. maybe he's confusing that one with this Ohio 13 year old who was shot: http://wkbn.com/2016/07/20/police-13-year-old-boy-shot-in-drive-by-shooting-in-ohio/ Or this one: http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2016/07/cleveland_man_sentenced_to_pri.html or this one: http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/cleveland/13-year-old-shot-while-looking-out-window/307036759 It was an interview with a fashion magazine. I'm sure they were grilling him about what he felt about black teenagers getting killed. US Weekly was a fashion magazine in October 2015? So a magazine article discussing race relations with a mixed race athlete was not an appropriate venue to discuss his true feelings about this country's institutional oppression (which upstream you said he just recently decided he thought about), but an NFL pregame(s) is the exact tplace to bring it up? Edited August 28, 2016 by Mr. WEO
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