prissythecat Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 you dont lose a spot. thats not a real thing. they literally would pick him up on a league minimum deal (couldnt negotiate better if they wanted) and could cut him tomorrow if the workout flops. the cost would be the 90th guy on their roster, a week before cuts. 26 - id be curious about your take on what message this sends and how it is different than the message claiming him would send? Thought the rule was that if you succesfully claim someone on waivers, you go to the bottom of the list?
26CornerBlitz Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) you dont lose a spot. thats not a real thing. they literally would pick him up on a league minimum deal (couldnt negotiate better if they wanted) and could cut him tomorrow if the workout flops. the cost would be the 90th guy on their roster, a week before cuts. 26 - id be curious about your take on what message this sends and how it is different than the message claiming him would send? I'll be surprised if they sign him now. My take is they want to get an in-person look to see where he is from both physical and mental perspectives for a possible signing after his suspension is over. Edited August 23, 2016 by 26CornerBlitz
thebandit27 Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 you dont lose a spot. thats not a real thing. they literally would pick him up on a league minimum deal (couldnt negotiate better if they wanted) and could cut him tomorrow if the workout flops. the cost would be the 90th guy on their roster, a week before cuts. 26 - id be curious about your take on what message this sends and how it is different than the message claiming him would send? Thanks to you (and kelly) for clearing that up--I was apparently mistaken
klos63 Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Thought the rule was that if you succesfully claim someone on waivers, you go to the bottom of the list? Nope, ranking are based on standings, regardless of how many claims.
NoSaint Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 I'll be surprised if they sign him now. My take is they want to get an in-person look to see where he is from both physical and mental perspectives for a possible signing after his suspension is over. so is that a different message than a claim would be? the only gap i see is that they essentially gave away the "right of first refusal" on him that ive been referring to the claim as. Thanks to you (and kelly) for clearing that up--I was apparently mistaken no worries - im still waiting for someone to come in and tell me im missing something obvious on this. its happened to me before too!
26CornerBlitz Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 so is that a different message than a claim would be? the only gap i see is that they essentially gave away the "right of first refusal" on him that ive been referring to the claim as. no worries - im still waiting for someone to come in and tell me im missing something obvious on this. its happened to me before too! The difference is you don't have to cut anyone with him just visiting as opposed to making a waiver claim.
eball Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 I think a common misconception among fans is that players -- even in the same position group -- are all buddies. I think it's extremely doubtful Shady spent one second of time outside the locker room with Karlos. Shady is a bright, well-spoken, man about town...three things Karlos is not. Again, I put very little weight into what Shady said publicly about the release of Karlos.
Coach Tuesday Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 I could totally see the Jets signing him. They'd love to stick it to Rex for the IK nonsense, and beat him over the head with his own shoe. I can see why the Bills released the guy - but I can see Kelly's "why now" point also. It will really suck if he becomes a productive weapon for a division rival, and/or we quickly run into depth issues at the RB spot (which would be such a Bills thing to happen).
Nanker Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 I'm glad they cut him. Sends a no-nonsense message to all the players. Hit the road, Jack. We don't need your kind around here. Time was when we'd all wring our hands and fawn over an athlete with decent talent and a messed-up head. No more. It's a New Era baby!
NoSaint Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 The difference is you don't have to cut anyone with him just visiting as opposed to making a waiver claim. so you are concerned about the 90th guy a week before cuts as a cost?
26CornerBlitz Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) so you are concerned about the 90th guy a week before cuts as a cost? They didn't claim him now did they? Just like the other 30 teams that could have. Why not if the decision was so easy? Edited August 23, 2016 by 26CornerBlitz
prissythecat Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Nope, ranking are based on standings, regardless of how many claims. Thanks! Good to know that a team can actually make multiple claims.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 I could totally see the Jets signing him. They'd love to stick it to Rex for the IK nonsense, and beat him over the head with his own shoe. I can see why the Bills released the guy - but I can see Kelly's "why now" point also. It will really suck if he becomes a productive weapon for a division rival, and/or we quickly run into depth issues at the RB spot (which would be such a Bills thing to happen). The Bills cut Karlos because he fell down the depth chart, simple as that. If he goes on to a great career, good for him. I dont know why people worry about stuff like this.
WotAGuy Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 so you are concerned about the 90th guy a week before cuts as a cost? Is this your FireChan imitation?
John from Riverside Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 I could totally see the Jets signing him. They'd love to stick it to Rex for the IK nonsense, and beat him over the head with his own shoe. I can see why the Bills released the guy - but I can see Kelly's "why now" point also. It will really suck if he becomes a productive weapon for a division rival, and/or we quickly run into depth issues at the RB spot (which would be such a Bills thing to happen). Maybe he can actually start losing weight instead of gaining it? The fact that he showed up in the offseason.......FOURTY POUNDS.....overweight....then showed up at training camp even fatter? Screams that this guy does not get it.
NoSaint Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Is this your FireChan imitation? ha - it just bugs me when people use "well no one else did it" as the counter argument when theres a relatively sound argument for something. im actually hoping someone will jump in with a great retort. but the cost of the 90th guy a week before cuts just isnt doing it. "the message sent" seems to not be where hes hanging his hat now that the workout is happening (because the message is the same).
Mr. WEO Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 I'm glad they cut him. Sends a no-nonsense message to all the players. Hit the road, Jack. We don't need your kind around here. "....unless we recently signed you to a contract with 60 million guaranteed. Then the message is...'more offseason nonsense and another suspension? No problem!--but better lay low in rehab for a while--but make sure you stop by the team event on Chippawa before you check in!!'"
John from Riverside Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 "....unless we recently signed you to a contract with 60 million guaranteed. Then the message is...'more offseason nonsense and another suspension? No problem!--but better lay low in rehab for a while--but make sure you stop by the team event on Chippawa before you check in!!'" Weo.....so what would you suggest here?
NoSaint Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Weo.....so what would you suggest here? yea, they literally have no choice with MD even if they hate the guy and wanted to cut him. the dude is untouchable at the moment. all they can do is hope he gets stuff on track.
John from Riverside Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 yea, they literally have no choice with MD even if they hate the guy and wanted to cut him. the dude is untouchable at the moment. all they can do is hope he gets stuff on track. And draft a player next year "just in case" I really like the young guys....but Washington is not a "middle" guy....I like Worthy but he is light in the ass to do what Marcel does (308 compared to 330 or whatever) If Marcel cant keep it together and ends up with a year ban next year......we need to be proactive
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