The Wiz Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 it is obviously semantics. Marcel found out Saturday. Player always informed first. The team was notified by the NFL (officially) at a later time, maybe Monday or Tuesday. He's clearly been in the substance abuse program, had multiple violations, and missed a weed test. All things that led to the suspension. That is what TG meant when he said Rex knew about this when he said they won the offseason. Rex said the report that he knew about the suspension months ago was false. That's true too since he learned of the suspension this week. It's all stupid. The only way that Rex could have known is if MD told Rex, Whaley, etc that he missed is mandatory testing back whenever it was. That's the only way they would have known back in June/July, whenever it was, that he was likely going to get suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 it is obviously semantics. Marcel found out Saturday. Player always informed first. The team was notified by the NFL (officially) at a later time, maybe Monday or Tuesday. He's clearly been in the substance abuse program, had multiple violations, and missed a weed test. All things that led to the suspension. That is what TG meant when he said Rex knew about this when he said they won the offseason. Rex said the report that he knew about the suspension months ago was false. That's true too since he learned of the suspension this week. It's all stupid. Thank you for saying what I said. You used more words though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) The only way that Rex could have known is if MD told Rex, Whaley, etc that he missed is mandatory testing back whenever it was. That's the only way they would have known back in June/July, whenever it was, that he was likely going to get suspended. nah I'm pretty sure that the team is informed if a player in the program misses a test. Since he was already in stage 2 (or whatever). They may have appealed it and were waiting to find out if he would actually be suspended. Edited August 18, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) nah I'm pretty sure that the team is informed if a player in the program misses a test. Since he was already in stage 2 (or whatever). They may have appealed it and were waiting to find out if he would actually be suspended. Good call Yolo. I figured the process started with the player and it was on them to inform the team but your outline makes more sense with everyone's "knowing the unknown". Makes more sense now not seeing MD participate that much in TC. I know vets don't really do that much but I think he dressed twice for camp? Edited August 18, 2016 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacarri and coke Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Why are people offended that the organization didn't release this information to the fans even if they did find out about the suspention/missed test?However and whenever the information is released doesn't matter.You guys act like the Bills are your girlfriend and your mad because she didn't tell you she was S'ing someone else's D..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) Good call Yolo. I figured the process started with the player and it was on them to inform the team but your outline makes more sense with everyone's "knowing the unknown". Makes more sense now not seeing MD participate that much in TC. I know vets don't really do that much but I think he dressed twice for camp? i actually think he tweaked his wrist or something in OTAs from what I recall. I know he missed the first couple weeks or so of camp with the injury and then came off the PUP list or whether he was on last week. He played more in the first preseason game than I thought he would. And looked really good. Oh well. Edited August 18, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) i actually think he tweaked his wrist or something in OTAs from what I recall. I know he missed the first couple weeks or so of camp with the injury and then came off the PUP list or whether he was on last week. He played more in the first preseason game than I thought he would. And looked really good. Oh well. Or did he?!?!?! And yes, I have saved this picture for future use no matter who it is. It's just to great of a photo. Edited August 18, 2016 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) Marcel tells the media that everyone makes mistakes. Yes, we all know this, but smart people also learn from their mistakes. How many is this for MD now since becoming a Bill, three? Apparently he still doesn't get it. He's the perfect example of insanity.....doing the same things over and over and expecting different results. Although in his defense he is getting different results, as in longer suspensions. Edited August 18, 2016 by Bubba Gump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Marcel tells the media that everyone makes mistakes. Yes, we all know this, but smart people also learn from their mistakes. How many is this for MD now since becoming a Bill, three? Apparently he still doesn't get it. He's the perfect example of insanity.....doing the same things over and over and expecting different results. Although in his defense he is getting different results, as in longer suspensions. 10 games is a large chunk of change. Let's hope he is smart enough not to throw away all of that cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 What happens to the money from these fines? Does it go back to the team or somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 What happens to the money from these fines? Does it go back to the team or somewhere else? I think I read that it goes back to the team, but also comes off the salary cap. I could be wrong though. But I totally agree with what someone else suggested.....the money should be split up between the season ticket holders who pay all that money to watch these players preform on the field. I think the fans are the biggest losers in these situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 What happens to the money from these fines? Does it go back to the team or somewhere else? My understanding the lost pay checks stay with the owner except for fines up to $250K if 3 or more players suspended. Salary cap given credit also. Dareus has lost a fortune , hope this is his last mistake , and the FO learns not to give out massive guaranteed contracts. Taylor's was perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Failed weed test? No links, no sources, strictly like 5 texts i have received in the last 20 minutes. 4 games on the table. anyone else? Marcel = Moron, that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I think I read that it goes back to the team, but also comes off the salary cap. I could be wrong though. But I totally agree with what someone else suggested.....the money should be split up between the season ticket holders who pay all that money to watch these players preform on the field. I think the fans are the biggest losers in these situations. My understanding the lost pay checks stay with the owner except for fines up to $250K if 3 or more players suspended. Salary cap given credit also. Dareus has lost a fortune , hope this is his last mistake , and the FO learns not to give out massive guaranteed contracts. Taylor's was perfect Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 doing the same things over and over and expecting different results. Like us..believing in this franchise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 A poster on the BB forum had a great idea. Dareus can regain good will by restructuring his contract so Gilmore can be re-signed long term. Buffalo Dunn Senior Member http://boards.buffalobills.com/showthread.php?530234-Dareus-suggestion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 A poster on the BB forum had a great idea. Dareus can regain good will by restructuring his contract so Gilmore can be re-signed long term. Buffalo Dunn Senior Member http://boards.buffalobills.com/showthread.php?530234-Dareus-suggestion That poster must have been high when he suggested that as a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Why are people offended that the organization didn't release this information to the fans even if they did find out about the suspention/missed test?However and whenever the information is released doesn't matter.You guys act like the Bills are your girlfriend and your mad because she didn't tell you she was S'ing someone else's D..... I can't answer for anyone but myself, but, I am not in the least offended. Pointing out how the team is hiding behind words to make it seem that this was something new to them is disingenuous at best. I hate that I have to defend el douche (graham) but his words on this appear to be true. A poster on the BB forum had a great idea. Dareus can regain good will by restructuring his contract so Gilmore can be re-signed long term. Buffalo Dunn Senior Member http://boards.buffalobills.com/showthread.php?530234-Dareus-suggestion When daeruses fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Like us..believing in this franchise? or JSP blathering the same stuff year after year and expecting a different response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Honestly, I'm MORE pissed off its resulting from him simply being too lazy to have gone and taken the drug test...seriously?? Getting a few hours more of sleep is worth losing $2-3 million dollars?? Unless he didn't take it because he knew it would come back positive and at least this way gave him a little wiggle room... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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