tedstrong Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) Welcome back Brandon! Veteran presence in the locker room, already has a relationship with Preston, and a good switch out with Zach. Edited August 7, 2016 by tedstrong
Deranged Rhino Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 My favorite Duke Williams play was when he got burnt for a td against the pat but he just leveled the wr before the ball got to him. Yup. That was brutal. He's a good teams guy, but if you're counting on Duke to be your starting safety for a long stretch it'll get ugly fast.
Mark Vader Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 AW is definitely overrated here. He was good in 2013 but prone to out-of-control stupidity and then perhaps mostly due to protecting that neck injury he was not exceptional at all in 2014(which he admits). If he can get back to 2013 play speed and do it without the emotional mistakes he could be a an asset. Hopefully he keeps his head up on tackles now and Ed Reed helps him with his field presence. I am interested to see if Duke Williams makes a step up this year........Duke made a ton of mental mistakes last year but he is probably their most physically talented safety. Aaron Williams may not be a Hall of Fame player, but he was sorely missed last year. Corey Graham had to play both SS & FS on his own. Rambo & Duke were just not good enough, or at all. I hope Duke does step up this year, but I think Robert Blanton could be the one that impresses everyone.
FireChan Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Duke is in no way a more physically gifted guy than Williams. Not by any metric. And he's terrible. Well that's just not true. Not to derail the thread.
Mark Vader Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 As for Brandon Spikes, I'm glad he's back. He played good enough for us last time, and I never saw him as a liability. I just hope Ragland's injury is not too severe.
Rocky Landing Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 This is good news. Spikes was decent against the run, as I recall. Welcome back Brandon! Veteran presence in the locker room, already has a relationship with Preston, and a good switch out with Zach. And, maybe a good switch out with Striker, as well? Spikes for obvious run downs, Striker for obvious passing downs?
Deranged Rhino Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Well that's just not true. Not to derail the thread. Duke is bigger, that's it. And that's not a meaningful metric because it doesn't show up at all on the field. Despite being slightly smaller, Aaron is faster, stronger, jumps higher, he's quicker in every way (explosion, start and stop, change of direction). Being 20 pounds heavier and an inch and change taller doesn't translate to the field in any meaningful way as we've seen. Aaron Williams is much more physically talented and gifted than Duke. And that's not even factoring in their instincts on the field which Aaron has and Duke lacks.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Duke is bigger, that's it. And that's not a meaningful metric because it doesn't show up at all on the field. Despite being slightly smaller, Aaron is faster, stronger, jumps higher, he's quicker in every way (explosion, start and stop, change of direction). Being 20 pounds heavier and an inch and change taller doesn't translate to the field in any meaningful way as we've seen. Aaron Williams is much more physically talented and gifted than Duke. And that's not even factoring in their instincts on the field which Aaron has and Duke lacks. Slam Dunk!
Maury Ballstein Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 I am interested to see if Duke Williams makes a step up this year........Duke made a ton of mental mistakes last year but he is probably their most physically talented safety. Duke Williams is garbaaaaaaaaaage.
Beerball Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Duke is in no way a more physically gifted guy than Williams. Not by any metric. And he's terrible. You two just can't resist each other can you? Let me guess, you went through a bad breakup with each other back in HS?
Deranged Rhino Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 You two just can't resist each other can you? Let me guess, you went through a bad breakup with each other back in HS? I'm a fan of good comedy. Claiming Duke Williams to be the most physically talented safety on the roster is hilarious... Or a cry for help. Either way, it deserves to be commented on and laughed at.
K D Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Duke Williams? What the heck? He probably won't make the team
John from Riverside Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 This is good news. Spikes was decent against the run, as I recall. And, maybe a good switch out with Striker, as well? Spikes for obvious run downs, Striker for obvious passing downs? Why would we not just play one of the best coverage LB's in the league in Zach Brown on obvious passing downs?
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Duke is bigger, that's it. And that's not a meaningful metric because it doesn't show up at all on the field. Despite being slightly smaller, Aaron is faster, stronger, jumps higher, he's quicker in every way (explosion, start and stop, change of direction). Being 20 pounds heavier and an inch and change taller doesn't translate to the field in any meaningful way as we've seen. Aaron Williams is much more physically talented and gifted than Duke. And that's not even factoring in their instincts on the field which Aaron has and Duke lacks. How is Aaron Williams faster when Duke out-ran him in both the 40 yd dash and the 20 yd shuttle? Now we have the key to the 2014 Schwartz D, so no more excuses?
CommonCents Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Why would we not just play one of the best coverage LB's in the league in Zach Brown on obvious passing downs? Offenses can manipulate the defensive personal. Using play calling to dictate personnel and coverages then going no huddle and making you unable to substitute. See the New England Patriots for the past 15 years or so.
BADOLBILZ Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 You two just can't resist each other can you? Let me guess, you went through a bad breakup with each other back in HS? I have no idea but he is definitely my pet troll at this point. Duke Williams ran a 4.52 40 and 4.00 20 at the combine...........Aaron Williams ran ran a 4.62 and a 4.07. Most of their physical metrics are about the same but Duke is bigger. Those are metrics. But I don't think anyone is suggesting that a late round pick like Duke is BETTER than the #34 overall pick in Aaron Williams. That's just Greggo being Greggo. Duke was a talented flyer and it would be nice if he turns that physical skill into production.....after the proven players Graham, AW and Blanton the last spot is up for grabs. With AW's busted neck and Graham's age Blanton and #4 might need to play a lot this year.
Kemp2Warlick Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 57s58 seconds ago Ian Rapoport Retweeted BrandonSpikes55 Rare a LB with that much productivity is available this time of year, too. Ian Rapoport added, BrandonSpikes55 @brandonspikes55Couldn’t be happier 2 join D @buffalobills 4 a 2nd chance This career n opportunity means everythin 2 me #billsmafia 6 retweets2 likes Reply
YoloinOhio Posted August 7, 2016 Author Posted August 7, 2016 Well now he can get his # back... @mikerodak Bills have waived/injured LB Kevin Reddick and released CB Javier Arenas and WR Gary Chambers. es.pn/2aDCTEB
Deranged Rhino Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 How is Aaron Williams faster when Duke out-ran him in both the 40 yd dash and the 20 yd shuttle? He didn't. AWilliams was faster in both: 40: Aaron 4.59 / Duke 4.72 20 yd shuttle: Aaron 4.07 / Duke 4.47
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 He didn't. AWilliams was faster in both: 40: Aaron 4.59 / Duke 4.72 20 yd shuttle: Aaron 4.07 / Duke 4.47 http://www.nfl.com/player/dukewilliams/2539269/combine
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